'00 Accord SE Clock

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Brian Drake, Oct 26, 2003.

  1. Brian Drake

    Brian Drake Guest

    Just bought a 2000 Accord SE today, on the drive home I noticed that the
    digital clock isn't illuminated. Do I have a burned out bulb or does it not
    illuminate?

    Thanks in advance

    Brian Drake
    Charlotte, NC - USA
     
    Brian Drake, Oct 26, 2003
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  2. Brian Drake

    Alain Guest

    Pull the whole clock and change the little bulb (circular). cost: $4.50.

    alain
     
    Alain, Oct 26, 2003
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  3. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest

    Alain,

    Are you sure about this? I own a 2000 Accord LX 4-Dr, bought it new
    and the clock was *never* illuminated right from day one. It bugs the
    h*ll out of me that they would design a car like this and I always
    switch on the map light at night to see the time. Most accessory
    clocks I saw in stores that said "back-light" also required a button
    press for light so I never saw the point of getting one of those.

    Recently I same across a post in some forum saying that a lot of
    Accords have a defective clock bulb, so I called a friend who owns a
    2000 Accord LX (same as mine) and he said his never illuminated
    either. And he always thought it is supposed to be like that (just
    like me).

    And when I tried to investigate it DIY style, I could not pry the
    clock out with a flat head screw driver. There is no "clip" under the
    hazard light button as written in the manuals. I have looked with a
    flashlight. If I try to slide a business card under the clock, it goes
    in maybe 1/4 inch and then hits the solid plastic after that.

    Believe me I have spent alot of time and energy on it this weekend but
    I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the d*mn clock out
    so I could see if there is a bulb. I have looked at several set of
    directions (for stereo removal -- they begin by removing the clock)
    and all of them say just in one sentence to remove the clock by prying
    it from bottom with a flathead screw driver. One post in this NG
    mentioned a clip under the hazard light button and another on the
    other side. But there ARE no clips whatsoever in my car. It looks
    like, and I know it sounds crazy, that it is fixed. My only option
    seems to be to pay a Honda technician $40 to fix that bulb.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks.
    BC
     
    Bryan Canter, Oct 27, 2003
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  4. Brian Drake

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    Drive into the Dealer Service door, and ask them to get it off for you.
    A good service writer would be happy to help you. bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Oct 27, 2003
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  5. Brian Drake

    Randy Hunt Guest

    I have one and the clock is illuminated the moment you fire up the car.

    Randy
     
    Randy Hunt, Oct 28, 2003
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  6. Brian Drake

    Brian Drake Guest

    Thanks for the post Bryan... I spoke to my sales guy today and he admitted
    that he didn't know if it was supposed to illuminate ! (he's new so I'll
    cut him some slack).... I am going to call the service dept and see what
    they say, if I get anything decent from them, Ill post.

    thanks again

    bd
     
    Brian Drake, Oct 29, 2003
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  7. Brian Drake

    Brian Drake Guest

    fyi Bryan, I called the service guys and they walked me through it, the
    clock popped right out of the dash... I just gently placed a flat head in
    the seam between the bottom of the clock and the dash, then twisted gently,
    I then finished it off by doing the same at the seam closest to either air
    vent.... it took like 10 seconds....

    bd
     
    Brian Drake, Oct 29, 2003
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  8. Absolutely 100% positive. Pry the clock out from the bottom with a
    small straight blade screwdriver. Disconnect the two connectors. Pull
    the tiny light out from the back. Replace with a new one ($2 at my
    dealer). Reverse the procedure. Done.

    Yes, the clock light is supposed to be on all the time when the ignition
    is on.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 29, 2003
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  9. The clock on my 98 accord LX used to be illuminated and then it
    stopped. A few weeks ago it lit up again(for a few hours) after
    having been off for months. Go figure...
     
    Ugyen Namgyel, Oct 30, 2003
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  10. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest


    You are welcome!

    Meanwhile.. the battle continues. I know I have an oil change
    appointment for this Saturday and I am gonna get help from the pros
    but I tried to pry out the clock again today. Of course, The Clock
    won! <Sigh>

    I used the small screwdriver in an eye-glasses repair kit to pry it
    from the sides. The screwdriver goes in the place where the clock
    meets the dash but lifting it gives me the feeling that the plastic
    face is going to break or chip (of course there is the overriding
    concern of getting the dashboard scratched too) so I cannot use a lot
    of force. But I am getting frustrated. If Saturday does not come soon
    enough I am afraid I might break something. SOMEBODY PLEASE STOP ME! I
    have never been defeated at this game before!!

    :)
     
    Bryan Canter, Oct 30, 2003
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  11. Brian Drake

    E. Meyer Guest

    The screwdriver from an eyeglass repair kit is way too small. You need
    something bigger. Get the biggest one you have that still has a thin enough
    blade to slip into the crack. Wrap your screwdriver in a piece of old
    t-shirt to keep it from scratching anything.
     
    E. Meyer, Oct 30, 2003
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  12. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest

    Thanks but a couple of questions:

    1. What size screw driver did you use? I have tried 1/4 and (IIRC) 3/8
    bits but they seem too big to me.

    2. Did you place it (first) directly in the middle of the clock?

    3. When you twisted, did it move out a little?

    Thanks, gonna try it again in a few minutes :)
    bc
     
    Bryan Canter, Oct 30, 2003
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  13. Brian Drake

    Brian Drake Guest

    Thanks but a couple of questions:

    1. What size screw driver did you use? I have tried 1/4 and (IIRC) 3/8
    bits but they seem too big to me.

    No idea, sorry but bigger than the eyeglass repair tool

    2. Did you place it (first) directly in the middle of the clock?
    yes, directly below

    3. When you twisted, did it move out a little?
    yeah, but the trick is getting it to pull 'out' towards you, not 'up' (or
    it will break / mar the unit). When you start twisting (gently), start
    pulling the screwdriver towards you, using the pressure of the twisting
    motion to in effect 'pull' the clock towards you..... let me know what
    happens

     
    Brian Drake, Oct 31, 2003
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  14. It's a good idea not to pry out plastic things in your car if it is cold -
    the plastic is much more brittle. If it's cold outside, run the car a bit or
    go for a drive to warm up the interior before you try to pry the clock out.
     
    Scott MacLean, Oct 31, 2003
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  15. Brian Drake

    Guest Guest

    The best way is to take out the center trim piece. there are a couple of
    phillips screws on the bottom. Then it should come out pretty easy
     
    Guest, Oct 31, 2003
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  16. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest

    Thanks again, Brian. But mine is probably stuck. I tried exactly as
    you said -- however, I might add that I did not use too much force. So
    it could just be me. Since a Honda service person knows how it comes
    out, he may go all out and pop it out in a second. But I could not do
    it. When I try to pull the screw driver towards me, it seems to lift
    the clock up and looks like it might damage the dash but the clock
    stays put right where it was. I have so many little marks on the dash
    now that I am kicking myself in the back for being so obsessed with
    it. And yes, I did use a business card to protect the dash. The marks
    are despite that.

    I am going for an oil change tomorrow so I will ask for help. Thanks
    and take care.

    bc
     
    Bryan Canter, Oct 31, 2003
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  17. No, it's not. In fact, you CANNOT take the center trim piece out
    WITHOUT taking the clock out first!

    Just put a thin screwdriver underneat the bottom of the clock, and pry
    gently. voila.

    (Once the clock is out, there's a screw behind it. If you unscrew that
    screw, and take out the two vertical screws at the bottom of the trim
    piece, you can then yank that trim piece off. This is how you get
    access to the radio.)
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 31, 2003
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  18. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest

    IT WORKED FINALLY!

    For the record, I was using the wrong type of screwdriver. I was using
    those round changeable-bits type with a flat head (of course) 1/4"
    bit, but that was causing more damage to the dash than it was doing
    anything for the clock. Of course prying on the sides with the
    eyeglasses screwdriver didn't help either.

    Finally, I stopped at a Target and picked up a really flat 4" long
    with a 1/4" head for a dollar. About 3 minutes with that puppy did the
    job.

    The clock bulb was about $2.50 at the local Honda dealer and changing
    it was real easy. The clock lights up really beautifully -- can't
    believe I used the car without the clock light for more than 3 years.

    Thanks everyone.
    bc.
     
    Bryan Canter, Nov 3, 2003
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  19. Brian Drake

    rlago Guest

    The truth about it is, is that for some reason, and maybe it is because of
    cheap bulbs or something, or like too much exposure to heat to the bulbs
    but, almost all Accords 1998 to 2002 are affected .
    And I should know, as I am a service advisor here at a local Honda service
    center. Should Honda do something about it? Maybe. Will they? Probably not.
    Funny thing about it though, all the ones that come into our shop with that
    problem with the bulb burned out were built in America! Hmmmmmm?
     
    rlago, Nov 4, 2003
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  20. Brian Drake

    Bryan Canter Guest

    Thanks for sharing that. A few searches in the newsgroups told me
    pretty much the same story (as far as problems are concerned). My
    friend who bought the same Accord I did (and on the same day) also had
    the same problem. That basically said to me that it was a very common
    problem. However, rather than being mad at Honda engineers, I feel
    good that at least they neglected only a small light bulb and not some
    crucial expensive part.

    IOW, I forgive them ;-)

    The service teams OTOH, could have been alot nicer about this. Since
    it is a common and easy to fix problem, they should not be asking for
    $25 to fix it.

    bc
     
    Bryan Canter, Nov 4, 2003
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