'03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller

Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.

One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.

In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.

I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.

 

Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.

One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.

In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.

I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.

 

Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.

One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.

In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.

I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.

 

Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.

Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.

The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.

http://tinyurl.com/2scnj

 

Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.

Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.

The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.

http://tinyurl.com/2scnj

 

Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.

Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.

The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.

http://tinyurl.com/2scnj

 

I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).

I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.

And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.

 

I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).

I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.

And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.

 

I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).

I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.

And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.

 

Watch out for some of the rebranded filters like Bosch, STP, Wallyworld -
some of them have switched to off-shore junk fairly recently, see
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Watch out for some of the rebranded filters like Bosch, STP, Wallyworld -
some of them have switched to off-shore junk fairly recently, see
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Watch out for some of the rebranded filters like Bosch, STP, Wallyworld -
some of them have switched to off-shore junk fairly recently, see
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Yep out-sourcing is the name of the game now, even to the extent of some
complete vehicles. There's so many mergers and spin-offs going on it's
hard to keep count but I read a while back that Mercedes-Benz has several
vehicles, including the G-wagen and 4wd E-class, assembled by Magna Steyr
in Austria as are some Euro Chrysler products like the PT Cruiser.

This is verging on a scandal in the auto industry: people think they're
buying "quality" for their >$50K and in fact it's just the same ol' stuff.
Time to put a stop to this nudge-nudge wink-wink stuff and for someone to
name names on this so that we at least have some idea of the value of what
we're buying. And yes, apparently our dear Honda has some sub-assemblies
which are less than pedigreed.... mention somewhere, not sure but maybe
Allpar, of some part of the 4WD trans of the MDX.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Yep out-sourcing is the name of the game now, even to the extent of some
complete vehicles. There's so many mergers and spin-offs going on it's
hard to keep count but I read a while back that Mercedes-Benz has several
vehicles, including the G-wagen and 4wd E-class, assembled by Magna Steyr
in Austria as are some Euro Chrysler products like the PT Cruiser.

This is verging on a scandal in the auto industry: people think they're
buying "quality" for their >$50K and in fact it's just the same ol' stuff.
Time to put a stop to this nudge-nudge wink-wink stuff and for someone to
name names on this so that we at least have some idea of the value of what
we're buying. And yes, apparently our dear Honda has some sub-assemblies
which are less than pedigreed.... mention somewhere, not sure but maybe
Allpar, of some part of the 4WD trans of the MDX.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Yep out-sourcing is the name of the game now, even to the extent of some
complete vehicles. There's so many mergers and spin-offs going on it's
hard to keep count but I read a while back that Mercedes-Benz has several
vehicles, including the G-wagen and 4wd E-class, assembled by Magna Steyr
in Austria as are some Euro Chrysler products like the PT Cruiser.

This is verging on a scandal in the auto industry: people think they're
buying "quality" for their >$50K and in fact it's just the same ol' stuff.
Time to put a stop to this nudge-nudge wink-wink stuff and for someone to
name names on this so that we at least have some idea of the value of what
we're buying. And yes, apparently our dear Honda has some sub-assemblies
which are less than pedigreed.... mention somewhere, not sure but maybe
Allpar, of some part of the 4WD trans of the MDX.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

For rotors check out http://www.importrp.com/ - they claim to ship to
Canada. I got their Brembo OE rotors for the rear of my '99 Integra (the
originals corroded badly) for ~$70. the pair including Fedex 3-day. These
are definitely genuine Brembo with branded packaging and stamped on the
rotor. I'm hoping they won't corrode as bad as the originals but they
can't be worse and no way I'd pay the ~$200. for the Acura parts.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

For rotors check out http://www.importrp.com/ - they claim to ship to
Canada. I got their Brembo OE rotors for the rear of my '99 Integra (the
originals corroded badly) for ~$70. the pair including Fedex 3-day. These
are definitely genuine Brembo with branded packaging and stamped on the
rotor. I'm hoping they won't corrode as bad as the originals but they
can't be worse and no way I'd pay the ~$200. for the Acura parts.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??