'03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by Nobody, Aug 30, 2003.

  1. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    OK - here's another one. I'm posting from Google Groups, so I'm not
    sure if there have been any responses to my last post.

    http://www.lesabret.com/filters/filter.html

    This guy took apart a Fram PH3387A (AC PF47 equivalent) after it had
    been used. The only time I took apart a filter (a Fram) was a few
    hundred miles, and I had first heard about the materials used by Fram.
    I noticed some cardboard fibers had started to separate.

    The filter element seems to have flexed a little too much (because
    of the lack of stiffness of the cardboard?), and a hole developed
    in the media. The anti-drainback valve (which I find to be really
    thin in Fram filters) had also folded over such that unfiltered oil
    was leaking through a gap.

    I remember some years back someone was chiding me for criticizing
    the use of cardboard in Fram filters. His point was that cardboard
    was used as a gasket material in high pressure military applications
    (i.e. submarines). However - I started thinking about it, and it
    gaskets need no structural strength (i.e. usually sandwiched between
    two metal surfaces). What happens when the cardboard flexes?
     
    y_p_w, Feb 10, 2004
  2. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    OK - here's another one. I'm posting from Google Groups, so I'm not
    sure if there have been any responses to my last post.

    http://www.lesabret.com/filters/filter.html

    This guy took apart a Fram PH3387A (AC PF47 equivalent) after it had
    been used. The only time I took apart a filter (a Fram) was a few
    hundred miles, and I had first heard about the materials used by Fram.
    I noticed some cardboard fibers had started to separate.

    The filter element seems to have flexed a little too much (because
    of the lack of stiffness of the cardboard?), and a hole developed
    in the media. The anti-drainback valve (which I find to be really
    thin in Fram filters) had also folded over such that unfiltered oil
    was leaking through a gap.

    I remember some years back someone was chiding me for criticizing
    the use of cardboard in Fram filters. His point was that cardboard
    was used as a gasket material in high pressure military applications
    (i.e. submarines). However - I started thinking about it, and it
    gaskets need no structural strength (i.e. usually sandwiched between
    two metal surfaces). What happens when the cardboard flexes?
     
    y_p_w, Feb 10, 2004
  3. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    OK - here's another one. I'm posting from Google Groups, so I'm not
    sure if there have been any responses to my last post.

    http://www.lesabret.com/filters/filter.html

    This guy took apart a Fram PH3387A (AC PF47 equivalent) after it had
    been used. The only time I took apart a filter (a Fram) was a few
    hundred miles, and I had first heard about the materials used by Fram.
    I noticed some cardboard fibers had started to separate.

    The filter element seems to have flexed a little too much (because
    of the lack of stiffness of the cardboard?), and a hole developed
    in the media. The anti-drainback valve (which I find to be really
    thin in Fram filters) had also folded over such that unfiltered oil
    was leaking through a gap.

    I remember some years back someone was chiding me for criticizing
    the use of cardboard in Fram filters. His point was that cardboard
    was used as a gasket material in high pressure military applications
    (i.e. submarines). However - I started thinking about it, and it
    gaskets need no structural strength (i.e. usually sandwiched between
    two metal surfaces). What happens when the cardboard flexes?
     
    y_p_w, Feb 10, 2004
  4. Add about 30% to USD to get CDN.
    My bad, call it ~$145CDN, plus 7% federal tax on the whole deal.

    Still good for decent rotors, just a long way from US prices.

    I've been shopping for aftermarket bits for my 91 EX-R. It's tough up here.

    Best deal so far has been a cat-back from www.hottexhaust.com
    $563CDN *in my hands* for a Magnaflow 15687.
    Local shops tell me "Oh, around $800",....of course, plus taxes, so more
    like $920. Same part #, pushed across the counter.

    Sorry, but I *work* for my money.

    Is the Can$ falling with the US$? Do you
    me??
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Feb 10, 2004
  5. Add about 30% to USD to get CDN.
    My bad, call it ~$145CDN, plus 7% federal tax on the whole deal.

    Still good for decent rotors, just a long way from US prices.

    I've been shopping for aftermarket bits for my 91 EX-R. It's tough up here.

    Best deal so far has been a cat-back from www.hottexhaust.com
    $563CDN *in my hands* for a Magnaflow 15687.
    Local shops tell me "Oh, around $800",....of course, plus taxes, so more
    like $920. Same part #, pushed across the counter.

    Sorry, but I *work* for my money.

    Is the Can$ falling with the US$? Do you
    me??
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Feb 10, 2004
  6. Add about 30% to USD to get CDN.
    My bad, call it ~$145CDN, plus 7% federal tax on the whole deal.

    Still good for decent rotors, just a long way from US prices.

    I've been shopping for aftermarket bits for my 91 EX-R. It's tough up here.

    Best deal so far has been a cat-back from www.hottexhaust.com
    $563CDN *in my hands* for a Magnaflow 15687.
    Local shops tell me "Oh, around $800",....of course, plus taxes, so more
    like $920. Same part #, pushed across the counter.

    Sorry, but I *work* for my money.

    Is the Can$ falling with the US$? Do you
    me??
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Feb 10, 2004
  7. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    $1 US is currently about $1.30 Cdn.

    He's optimistic. He'll pay about $163 Cdn. The provincial goons now rough
    you up for the provincial tax even on items purchased outside the country.


    Yes. The price is figured on item plus shipping plus provincial sales tax,
    then the federal GST tax is calculated on that figure. Yes, we are paying
    tax on tax. Lovely country, no?


    A pair of OEM rotors for my Integra are $69 each. That's about $160 Cdn,
    tax in.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 10, 2004
  8. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    $1 US is currently about $1.30 Cdn.

    He's optimistic. He'll pay about $163 Cdn. The provincial goons now rough
    you up for the provincial tax even on items purchased outside the country.


    Yes. The price is figured on item plus shipping plus provincial sales tax,
    then the federal GST tax is calculated on that figure. Yes, we are paying
    tax on tax. Lovely country, no?


    A pair of OEM rotors for my Integra are $69 each. That's about $160 Cdn,
    tax in.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 10, 2004
  9. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    $1 US is currently about $1.30 Cdn.

    He's optimistic. He'll pay about $163 Cdn. The provincial goons now rough
    you up for the provincial tax even on items purchased outside the country.


    Yes. The price is figured on item plus shipping plus provincial sales tax,
    then the federal GST tax is calculated on that figure. Yes, we are paying
    tax on tax. Lovely country, no?


    A pair of OEM rotors for my Integra are $69 each. That's about $160 Cdn,
    tax in.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 10, 2004
  10. It's still not clear to me what the $155. or $163 covers: just shipping or
    including the parts?
    I was going by the price at http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/ plus Can$
    conversion.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Feb 11, 2004
  11. It's still not clear to me what the $155. or $163 covers: just shipping or
    including the parts?
    I was going by the price at http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/ plus Can$
    conversion.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Feb 11, 2004
  12. It's still not clear to me what the $155. or $163 covers: just shipping or
    including the parts?
    I was going by the price at http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/ plus Can$
    conversion.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Feb 11, 2004
  13. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    Stephen Bigelow's post says:

    "$85.33USD (shipping in)
    Plus UPS brokerage charges of around $30CDN"

    That's $110.93 Cdn for the parts (at an exchange of 30%), shipping
    included, then $30 Cdn for the brokerage. Total about $140.93 Cdn. He may
    have been using a slightly different exchange rate when he posted.

    In addition, he will pay 8% provincial tax (assuming he's in Ontario), and
    7% federal GST on that total, so his grand total will come to either
    $162.07 or $162.86, depending on whether I am right about GST being applied
    to the PST.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 11, 2004
  14. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    Stephen Bigelow's post says:

    "$85.33USD (shipping in)
    Plus UPS brokerage charges of around $30CDN"

    That's $110.93 Cdn for the parts (at an exchange of 30%), shipping
    included, then $30 Cdn for the brokerage. Total about $140.93 Cdn. He may
    have been using a slightly different exchange rate when he posted.

    In addition, he will pay 8% provincial tax (assuming he's in Ontario), and
    7% federal GST on that total, so his grand total will come to either
    $162.07 or $162.86, depending on whether I am right about GST being applied
    to the PST.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 11, 2004
  15. Nobody

    Tegger® Guest


    Stephen Bigelow's post says:

    "$85.33USD (shipping in)
    Plus UPS brokerage charges of around $30CDN"

    That's $110.93 Cdn for the parts (at an exchange of 30%), shipping
    included, then $30 Cdn for the brokerage. Total about $140.93 Cdn. He may
    have been using a slightly different exchange rate when he posted.

    In addition, he will pay 8% provincial tax (assuming he's in Ontario), and
    7% federal GST on that total, so his grand total will come to either
    $162.07 or $162.86, depending on whether I am right about GST being applied
    to the PST.
     
    Tegger®, Feb 11, 2004
  16. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    I was at the parts dept of an Acura dealer last weekend to pick up a
    ground wire. They had a special on several of the filters, including
    the Filtech (15400-P0H-305) for $4.99 each. However - the shrink
    wrap on each filter was compromised, and they must have been kept in
    a moist environment. There was mild rust on the baseplate of each
    filter. It probably wasn't that big a deal. The Denso filters for
    the Legend were $10 each.
     
    y_p_w, Feb 17, 2004
  17. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    I was at the parts dept of an Acura dealer last weekend to pick up a
    ground wire. They had a special on several of the filters, including
    the Filtech (15400-P0H-305) for $4.99 each. However - the shrink
    wrap on each filter was compromised, and they must have been kept in
    a moist environment. There was mild rust on the baseplate of each
    filter. It probably wasn't that big a deal. The Denso filters for
    the Legend were $10 each.
     
    y_p_w, Feb 17, 2004
  18. Nobody

    y_p_w Guest

    I was at the parts dept of an Acura dealer last weekend to pick up a
    ground wire. They had a special on several of the filters, including
    the Filtech (15400-P0H-305) for $4.99 each. However - the shrink
    wrap on each filter was compromised, and they must have been kept in
    a moist environment. There was mild rust on the baseplate of each
    filter. It probably wasn't that big a deal. The Denso filters for
    the Legend were $10 each.
     
    y_p_w, Feb 17, 2004
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