05 HAH cornering on a tire edge

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Kevin McMurtrie, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. My 05 Accord Hybrid has always felt like an iron slab on turns. It
    holds steady but the front slides out like it's driving on sand. Based
    on tire wear and the mark it leaves on smooth surfaces, I can see that
    it's taking turns entirely on the outside edge of the outer front tire.
    A hard turn leaves behind one black line about two inches thick.

    Is this bad traction caused by weak tires or poor suspension geometry?
    I've been thinking about getting rid of my car for many reasons, and
    never cornering well could be the last straw. Do I invest in better
    tires or get a new car?

    I've checked the suspension and I've tried a higher tire pressure
    already. Has anyone upgraded the tires on their 05 HAH?
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Apr 11, 2006
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    speednxs Guest

    I'm guessing poor suspension geometry. I believe how much the tire
    leans side to side is called camber. Camber should be adjusted so that
    the tire remains flat on the road while cornering (and driving
    straight). My old Civic needed a "camber kit" because camber wasn't
    directly adjustable. Don't know about Accords. Hybrics probably have
    more junk that is unfamiliar to most mechanics (regenerative
    braking/electric motors). A reputable alignment shop should be able
    to help you with this. Yeah, I know, this is like finding an honest
    politician.
     
    speednxs, Apr 11, 2006
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    butch burton Guest

    A reputable alignment shop should be able
    to help you with this. Yeah, I know, this is like finding an honest
    politician.

    LOL - agree completely - actually found one in Minneapolis. Kevin get
    that suspension looked at - something else maybe going on - if
    something lets go at freeway speeds - you might get an expensive
    adrenalin rush - don't need/want those events.
     
    butch burton, Apr 11, 2006
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    SoCalMike Guest

    is it possible the OEM tires are chosen for maximum MPG as well?
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 12, 2006
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    Art Guest

    What tires do you have on the car? The electric steering in the hybrid is
    not quite as good as the normal steering in other Accords but it isn't
    supposed to be bad. I have no problems with my wife's hybrid accord.
     
    Art, Apr 12, 2006
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  6. Actually, it would be castor that needs adjusting, and it's not
    adjustable. The tire is perfectly flat on straight and gentle turns so
    camber is fine. It's hard turns where the tires are running on their
    edge.

    I'd like know if the tires have abnormally weak sidewalls or if the
    suspension just doesn't hold the wheels at a good angle. Or both?
    Between the low milage, transmission downshift lag, poor handling, and
    suspect reliability, I'm not sure if I want to keep this car for its
    full life or trade it while it's still a highly valued model.

    Yeah, it's my fault. I didn't push the car hard enough in the test
    drive. It has an awesome 0-60 but it doesn't handle well when driven
    aggressively and it doesn't save gas when driven conservatively.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Apr 12, 2006
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    Art Guest

    My wife's commute is a crawl to work. Stop and go mostly stopped. She gets
    about 29 mpg on her Accord hybrid. On her 300M she used to get about 20
    mpg.
     
    Art, Apr 12, 2006
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    ACAR Guest

    Too much weight transfer for the tire, suspension system as a whole?
    Slow up or trade up, would be my advice. You're driving this car far
    harder than the designers intended, IMHO.

    Civic Si?
    Need something larger? Infiniti G35?
     
    ACAR, Apr 14, 2006
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