'06 Oddysey Oil Change

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by a12vman, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. a12vman

    a12vman Guest

    The Manual Calls for 5W-20 which is synthetic.

    I just paid $27 for 5 Quarts of Synthetic Blend & 1 Filter at Murrays
    Discount Auto.

    Dealer Charges $28 for the Change.

    Do Honda Dealers put 5W-20 in on an Oil Change?

    Do I have to use this 5W-20 Blend or would 5W-30 do the job?

    Thanks In Advance,
    -a12vman
     
    a12vman, Oct 17, 2006
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  2. a12vman

    bob zee Guest


    5w-20 isn't necessarily always synthetic.

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Oct 17, 2006
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  3. What makes you think 5W-20 oil is synthetic. Like a number of grades,
    some are synthetic, some aren't. The synthetic oils of course are more
    expensive. Based on my experience with oil changes at my local Honda
    dealer, they do not use synthetic.

    Ken
     
    Kenneth J. Harris, Oct 17, 2006
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  4. a12vman

    a12vman Guest

    Ok I made the mistake of listening to the Guy at Murray's, what a bunch of
    crap!

    I will take back the filter and the oil and go to Auto Zone instead, they
    have non sysnthetic 5W-20.
     
    a12vman, Oct 17, 2006
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  5. a12vman

    Dave L Guest

    Actually it depends on the dealer. The dealer I bought my Honda from
    started using 5W-20 synthetic blend. Spoke to a mechanic at another
    dealership and he said they just use 5W-30. Guess it depends where you take
    it.

    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Oct 17, 2006
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  6. a12vman

    John Horner Guest

    Most dealers will do as the factory recommends, but some might not.
    Just ask!

    Some parts stores don't stock many 5W-20 choices as it is still
    relatively uncommon for DIY, but is becoming more common all the time.

    Synthetic blend oils are retailing at around $3/quart which should have
    been about $15 for five quarts. A Honda size oil filter retails for
    $2-$6 depending on brand and store. $27 for the whole set sounds high.

    Your message is a little confusing as you talk about both Synthetic and
    Synthetic blend oils. Maybe you got sold a synthetic which at a parts
    store retails for around $6/quart. Do you live in an area with really
    cold winter weather? If so, running synthetic in the winter wouldn't be
    a bad idea. Compared to the cost of your '06 Odyssey, or even the cost
    of one tank of gas, $27 is nothing!

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 17, 2006
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  7. Ummm, if you say so (but it's not).

    Absolutely.

    But as you can see, they're not using synthetic oil.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Oct 17, 2006
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  8. a12vman

    Joe LaVigne Guest

    The manual doesn't call for Synthetic, does it? Honda generally doesn't
    care... 5w-20 is readily available in dino and synth...
    For a car that calls for it, yes. They put in what the manual calls for.
    Use 5w-20 if that is what is called for. You don't NEED synthetic, but I
    prefer it, regardless of the oil weight and viscosity...


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    Joe LaVigne, Oct 18, 2006
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  9. a12vman

    a12vman Guest

    I was told by the guy at Murray's that 5W-20 only came in synthetic.

    Turns out he was wrong. I got a filter & 5 Quarts of non-synthetic 5W-20 at
    AutoZone for just under $15.

    Not a bad deal! Manual doesn't call for Synthetic, just wants it to meet
    Standards.
     
    a12vman, Oct 18, 2006
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    tww Guest

    Probably depends on the dealer and the best bulk oil deal they can get. My
    local claims to use a 5-20W synthetic blend, but who really knows.
     
    tww, Oct 19, 2006
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    ACAR Guest

    IMHO, it would be prudent to change your 5W-20 oil/filter under the
    "severe" schedule whereas if you use synthetic oil it can easily last
    for a "normal" interval. Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic (on the
    shelf at WalMart) should be good for at least 10,000 miles between oil
    changes and likely 50% more than that. I spend the extra bucks on
    synthetic to reduce the number of oil changes I do. I consider
    synthetic's other benefits (easier cold weather starts, no thermal
    breakdown, a little better mpg) secondary.
     
    ACAR, Oct 19, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    Are they using one of the ConocoPhillips brands of oil? CP advertises
    that even their lowest priced oils are now a synthetic blend.

    http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/news_releases/2004releases/080304_synthetic.htm

    CP brands include:

    * Kendall GT-1®
    * Phillips 66 TropArtic®
    * 76 Super
    * Conoco Super All Season

    All four appear to be exactly the same oil in different bottles.

    CP also makes the Motorcraft branded oils, at least for US distribution.

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 19, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    yeah, but "synthetic" doesn't mean much. have you noticed how brake
    fluid is now "synthetic"? it's just like it was before, just more
    expensive. "synthetic" used to mean something. now it doesn't. even
    mobil 1 is still mineral oil base.
     
    jim beam, Oct 20, 2006
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    rocketj55 Guest

    So in SoCal, some Honda dealers have synthetic blend 5w-20 for their
    oil changes and others have just conventional....for the same price,
    roughly between 25-30$. this might be stupid question, but for the same
    price, would you go with the synthetic blend? like...does it last
    longer, esp if i follow a severe maintenance schedule?
     
    rocketj55, Oct 22, 2006
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  15. a12vman

    Dave L Guest

    For the same price? Yes!
    If for more money, that's your call.
    -Dave
     
    Dave L, Oct 23, 2006
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  16. a12vman

    John Horner Guest


    Synthetic blend labeling is just marketing in this case. I suspect that
    the dealers who are advertising it are using Kendall or one of the other
    ConocoPhillips brands.

    As long as they are using a major brand 5W-20 it doesn't make a difference.

    It is kind of funny that few Honda dealers install Honda branded motor
    oil :).

    John
     
    John Horner, Oct 23, 2006
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