'07 Civic Si - Throttle reflash?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by adventuremyk, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. adventuremyk

    adventuremyk Guest

    Does anyone have any idea when they are going to have the reflash out
    that they have been promising for the last year that fixes the
    horrible fly-by-wire programming??? It's always "1-2 weeks away" at
    the three local dealers. All acknowledge the problem, but yet no one
    seems to have ever figured out when it will legitimately be available.

    The wife is not interested in putting in aftermarket ECU's or
    piggyback ECU's. The car is stock and will remain that way as this is
    her car. We just want the friggen throttle fixed!
     
    adventuremyk, Jun 30, 2008
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  2. adventuremyk

    Dano58 Guest

    Why not call Honda directly? Must be a number in your owner's
    manual......

    What is the problem with the throttle?

    Dan D
    '07 Ody EX
    Central NJ USA
     
    Dano58, Jun 30, 2008
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  3. adventuremyk

    a Guest

    Here's a description of the problem on an '06:
    http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/570

    As an aside - I have an '02 Accord 4cyl and the revs have done that since
    new (complained many times to dealer) and to the best of my knowledge -
    it's *not* a wired throttle!

    a
     
    a, Jul 1, 2008
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  4. adventuremyk

    jim beam Guest


    "The requested URL /roadtests/570 was not found on this server."

    what are the symptoms?
     
    jim beam, Jul 1, 2008
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  5. adventuremyk

    a Guest

    Well that was fast! It is still the top hit when Googling for "civic si
    throttle problem"

    Here's Google's cache:
    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:vKir8nQBeKcJ:blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/570

    a
     
    a, Jul 1, 2008
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  6. adventuremyk

    a Guest

    Here it is - they moved it - weird.

    http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2006/12/2006-honda-civic-si-throttle-response-fix-sort-of.html

    a
     
    a, Jul 1, 2008
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  7. adventuremyk

    adventuremyk Guest

    We have called and they simply refer us to our local dealer. I have a
    sneaking suspicion that they have no interest whatsoever in fixing
    this. How they can get it so right on the S2000 but so wrong on the
    Civic Si is beyond me.

    The problem with the throttle is that it will literally hang for up to
    1.5 seconds after you let off. We have been told by 3 dealers that
    this is to help when running hard in the 2nd cam, and if that's the
    case, why does it do it as little as 2,500rpm? This, alongside GM's
    skip shift, is probably the easiest way to make a competent driver
    look like a total novice as it will screw up the shifting most every
    time.

    When you let off the gas, you expect the engine to slow down as it
    does on every other vehicle. That makes it easier to rev-match, etc.
    Another problem we ran into is in parking lots. If you idle up then
    back off you expect the car to slow down. It doesn't..at least not for
    about a second or so after you release the throttle. Essentially, a
    very bad programming job on their fly-by-wire throttle. If there was
    a reasonable conversion to bring it back to a wired throttle we'd jump
    on it as that is the one thing about the car we dislike. Well, that
    and it's FWD... <grin>
     
    adventuremyk, Jul 1, 2008
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  8. adventuremyk

    jim beam Guest


    do you have an after-market exhaust on the vehicle?
     
    jim beam, Jul 2, 2008
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  9. adventuremyk

    adventuremyk Guest

    Not sure if you meant myself or A, but our Si sedan is totally stock
    at this point. We don't anticipate making any changes other than to a
    more agressive set of tires for her. She drives it like it's meant to
    be, but doesn't want to screw around with the mechanicals. She is
    also looking to autocross it which is another reason we really want
    this hanging throttle issue fixed. That will kill times!
     
    adventuremyk, Jul 2, 2008
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  10. adventuremyk

    jim beam Guest

    you want to autocross it? dude, get a wrx. with the current macpherson
    civics, there's no handling advantage any more, so you may as well go
    for the superior power and traction of the subaru.
     
    jim beam, Jul 2, 2008
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  11. adventuremyk

    adventuremyk Guest

    That's her car that she wants to autocross. My daily driver is a 2005
    Lotus Elise with the Lotus Sport Suspension. I have that angle
    covered. :)

    With the new job I'm looking at a normal WRX sedan as a daily driver
    or perhaps a Mazda 3 (not Mazdaspeed) to keep running cost and
    insurance down.
     
    adventuremyk, Jul 2, 2008
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  12. adventuremyk

    a Guest

    Not me - everything is stock.

    a
     
    a, Jul 8, 2008
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