1987 Honda Accord Emmissions Problems

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Lifestar, May 10, 2006.

  1. Lifestar

    Lifestar Guest

    I have a 1987 Accord LX with emmissions problems. It has markedly high HC and CO output. I have replaced the air filter, o2 sensor and PCV Valve. I have a new CAT for it but it isn't installed yet. The engine is carburated and i'm wondering how to go about adjusting the mixture to lean it out, or any other ideas anyone might have to get the emmisions down
     
    Lifestar, May 10, 2006
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  2. I have a 1987 Accord LX with emmissions problems. It has markedly high
    HC and CO output. I have replaced the air filter, o2 sensor and PCV
    Valve. I have a new CAT for it but it isn't installed yet. The engine is
    carburated and i'm wondering how to go about adjusting the mixture to lean
    it out, or any other ideas anyone might have to get the emmisions down.--
    Lifestar
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    What's the condition of the muffler and catalytic converter?

    Does black smoke come out of the exhaust pipe when you start the car?

    On a car that is 19 years old, it's very possible that the rings
    are going bad. That's is a problem that is very expensive to repair.
    It may be time to start thinking about trading it in on a newer
    car. It's possible to get some great deal on used cars that are
    in great condition.
    They may still sell a chemical that you can add to your gas that
    helped to pass to pass emissions tests. I doubt if it will work
    if your rings are in bad condition.
    Jason
     
    Jason Johnson, May 11, 2006
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  3. The cat is a good suspect, given the age and that both HC and CO are high. I
    also think you've chosen a good sequence to get to this stage.

    I have a hunch the idle mixture control is sealed on your carburetor.
    Sometimes the seal takes the form of a plastic cap that allows you to make
    about half a turn of adjustment. Normally the mixture doesn't need to be
    readjusted. In Ye Olde Days the mixture could be adjusted by ear, actually
    with a tach. The mixture was set on the rich side and leaned out until the
    rpms drop by 50. That became obsolete when catalytic converters came out,
    since some CO was necessary to fire the cat.

    From here, install the cat and see how it goes - I expect your problem will
    be solved. If CO is still high, see if there is an air injection system (I'm
    not familiar with carbureted Hondas) that needs work.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 11, 2006
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  4. Lifestar

    chartrookie Guest

    I had an emissions prob w/ my 86 Civic Wagon, auto/air/2wd, carb.

    My prob was NOX [nitrous oxide] which the guy from State EPA told me
    was "fixable," which I thought was an odd word to use [what ISN'T
    fixable?]. What he meant was fixable at reasonable cost, probably via a
    cat converter. If the prob were HC [hydro-carbons], it could have
    meant bad rings which, as stated in previous posts here, is
    unfortunately expensive. [But other things can cause HC probs;
    hopefully economical carb adjustments.]

    I didn't get cat converter because in this state I was eligible for an
    emissions waiver since my spending on this repair job [a lot of carb
    work] had reached a certain threshold.

    You may want to see if your state offers emissions waivers. The state
    inspection office I used was not well informed on the issue.
     
    chartrookie, May 13, 2006
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