1990 Civic hestiation/stumbling

Discussion in 'Civic' started by r2000swler, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    A friend's daughter has a 1990Civc that she bought new.
    The car has perfect body work, and she has all routine
    and scheduled maintinance. LAst weekend on the way back
    from Red River gorge it would hesitate so badly on the
    interstate that she got off at the first chance and drove
    back on the slower back roads.

    I went over saturday and drove it. It acted real funny.
    My first thought was bad gasoline, she filled up right
    before the trouble started.

    So we drained the tank, 10+ gallons is a LOT of gasoline.
    We put a gallon of fresh, good gas and I drove to the nearest
    chevron. And filled it up. OUCH, glad she was paying!

    We hit the road and I went for a spin on the nearest high speed
    road. Again, bad hesitation. The worst I have ever seen.

    I was ready to start pulling prats and taking measurements but
    here son, a Honda biker, suggested we give Gumout "Regane Complete
    Fuel System Cleaner." I had some serious doubts, but she wanted to
    give it a try. So off to walmart. Bought it for less then $6.
    Added it, and filled the car up at the SuperAmerica across the road.
    I figured a littel gasohol couldn't hurt.

    My wife and daughter's friend and I went for a spin. With a cellphone.
    Went to London KY, about 80 miles south on I75. The car kicked and
    bucked a little at the start, but soon settled down. I was amazed

    So we then zoomed down to Corbin and stopped at a nice little
    hole in the wall for a late lunch. We drove back with no
    hesitation.

    Guys I have to say that this specific Gumout cleaner works great.
    I suggested that she get her fuel filter changed after the next
    fill up. And that she use this tank nearly up, as close to empty as
    she dares.

    I will post if anything changes, but I suspect the last load of gas
    she got prior to the problem and it left some gunk on the injectors.
    The old gas looks and smells ok, but none of us want to test it in out
    cars.

    Now what do you do with ~10 gallons of bad gas?

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Apr 17, 2005
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  2. r2000swler

    TeGGer® Guest

    wrote in



    Mix it 1 gallon for every 9 gallons of fresh gas. Ten fillups and you're
    done.
     
    TeGGer®, Apr 18, 2005
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  3. r2000swler

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    There's probably nothing wrong with that gas . .When she got a bunch of
    water into the element of the fuel filter, it will act terrible,
    preventing even fuel from passing. Even just the Gasohol might have
    cured your problem, by absorbing the water and flushing out the fuel
    filter. Others have posted the very same story here, but not recently.
    We run into that problem WAY more often in Canada, because of longer,
    colder winters, and warm damp parkades to park our vehicles in all day.
    :-( Changing the fuel filter will help for sure. I try to use gasohol
    every 4 or 5 tanks during cold season.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Apr 18, 2005
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  4. r2000swler

    SoCalMike Guest

    lawnmower, weed wacker, etc. they tolerate crappy gas really well. did
    it look dark/varnished? id put some in a glass and see if it seperates
    into water/gas
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 18, 2005
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  5. r2000swler

    bugler Guest

    Does it cut off at all while being driven?

    I know this is a VERY rare problem, but a few months ago I had the same
    symptoms and it turned out that a coil in the distributor was fried.
    You may want to pick up a used distributor at a junkyard and replace
    it. An electrical test would tell you better...
     
    bugler, Apr 18, 2005
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  6. r2000swler

    Elle Guest

    Distributor coils frying and causing cutouts while being driven, especially
    after warmup, are not rare.

    I'd call it something to expect within about every five years with early
    1990s Civics, among other makes.
     
    Elle, Apr 18, 2005
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  7. r2000swler

    Bugler Guest

    I stand corrected, it's just what I was told by the dealer here in
    Indy. They were about to charge me $350 for replacing it. I bought
    the part at a junkyard for $70 and replaced it myself for nothing (but
    a few hand scrapes :).
     
    Bugler, Apr 18, 2005
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  8. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    TeGGer wrote:

    Mix it 1 gallon for every 9 gallons of fresh gas. Ten fillups and
    you're
    done.

    --
    TeGGeR®

    The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
    www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
    ------------------------------------------------------
    I have an old lawn mower that I wish would die.
    So this morning I filled it up witht he quesitonable gas.
    Ran a little rough, but no big problem.

    Pulled the spark plug whendone and it was a litle dirty.
    There is something odd with this gas and I't ot about to
    put in a car I car about.

    And for those that suspected water in the gas, that wasn't
    the poblem. I suspect the octance is just too low, maybe
    mixed with a load of kerosene. Looked good, smelled good 100cc
    evaporated completly in 4 or 5 hours and left "no" residue.
    "No" equals a very slightly oily film on the glass.

    One of life's little mysteries.

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Apr 18, 2005
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  9. r2000swler

    Elle Guest

    Hey, you're good. :)

    My 1991 Civic was cutting out and hesitating after warm up a couple of years
    ago. A highly recommended very clean and large Honda-specialized independent
    shop blamed the problem on my modifiying the dizzy rotor. I had attached it
    with a cotter pin after its screw stripped four months before. They replaced
    the distributor housing but not the coil or ignitor and were snotty about my
    observation that the cotter pin fix would not likely affect the timing,
    yada. I trusted them. Cost (labor and parts): $472. A week later the problem
    recurs. NOW they correctly diagnose the dizzy coil as the problem. I object.
    They charge me only for the dizzy coil. They suggest a new ignitor. I buy it
    but tell them I'll install it myself, thank you very much.

    I agree that replacing the distributor and its associated parts is a pretty
    straightforward job.

    The next year or so I heard the Car Talk Guys (Tom 'n Ray) talking about the
    symptoms we've described as often going with a fried dizzy coil.
     
    Elle, Apr 18, 2005
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