1990 Civic left rear wheel bearing?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    I got a call this afternoon from a friend who says he has a
    "rumbling" noise from the left rear tire area. My first guess
    was wheel bearing. He says when he turns right the noise goes
    away. And that it wasn't noticable except on WET roads.

    Could this be tire cupping?

    I plan on going over Saturday afternoon and swaping left front
    with left rear and see, or hear what happens.

    This frined took early medical retirement and is fighting
    the SS office so he is pretty tight moeny wise.

    Before I even think about changing the wheel bearing what am
    I thinking about getting into?

    I am afriad of the no good deed goes unpunished sequence.

    Looking at the manual I see that I will have:
    unstake the nut
    remove the nut
    remove the hub

    Am I understanding that the bearing is permantly attached
    to the hub?

    replace the hub
    replace the nut with a NEW on
    restake nut

    Is that it or does the brake assembly have to be removed?


    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  2. r2000swler

    jim beam Guest

    so, your friend tells you what they think it is, then you tell us what
    you think your friend thinks it is? that's not a recipe for successful
    diagnostics.

    go check the car out personally, then report back.
     
    jim beam, Sep 17, 2005
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  3. r2000swler

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in

    If it's only noticeable on wet roads, it's unlikely to be the wheel
    bearing. A wheel bearing would be independent of road moisture.

    Tires make some really weird noises when they wear oddly.


    Excellent idea.


    The bearing is pressed into the hub, just like the front. You need a
    big-ass press to squeeze the thing out of there. You can remove the
    trailing arm then take that to a machine shop to get the hub bearing
    replaced. That's easy enough except for the rust.

    I don't think it's the bearing though. The rear wheel bearings are well
    protected from the elements and rarely go bad, unlike the fronts...


    Removing the brake is the least of your worries. That's easy.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 17, 2005
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  4. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    TeGGeR® wrote:
    snip

    Removing the brake is the least of your worries. That's easy.

    TeGGeR®
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You are starting to scare me.

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  5. r2000swler

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in

    Halloween is *next* month. BOO!
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 17, 2005
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  6. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    TeGGeR:
    Is the nut going to be THAT hard to remove?
    Is this like the never damned enough timing belt nut?
    That was a real PITA!

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  7. r2000swler

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in

    Actually, it won't be. I just checked my manual and have discovered that
    you do NOT /necessarily/ need a press (sorry about that) to remove the old
    bearing.

    The staked nut is torqued to 134 ft-lbs, so would be easily shifted by a
    250ft-lb DeWalt electric impact gun as cheaply rented by most industrial
    supply houses.

    DON'T remove the nut at the BACK of the trailing arm!

    The hub bearing itself is pressed into the hub. I do not now know the price
    difference between the bearing alone and the hub/bearing assembly.

    This extract is specifically for the '92-'95 Civic with disc brakes, but
    ought to be applicable to your '90 with drums or discs.
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/92-95_Civic_rear-hub_bearing.pdf
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 17, 2005
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  8. r2000swler

    jim beam Guest

    easily shifted by a 1/2" breaker bar too!
    honda won't sell you the bearing alone, just the assembly, which is
    interesting given that they'll happily sell other bearings on their own.
    i think this means there's no convenient way to extract the races
    from the hub once pressed in.
     
    jim beam, Sep 17, 2005
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  9. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    Thanks for the link.
    I am trying to get my ducks in a row before I do anything other
    then swap tires.

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  10. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    jim beam wrote:

    easily shifted by a 1/2" breaker bar too!


    honda won't sell you the bearing alone, just the assembly, which is
    interesting given that they'll happily sell other bearings on their
    own.
    i think this means there's no convenient way to extract the races
    from the hub once pressed in.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Thanks for the information.
    I want to know what would be involved IF I decide to be
    helpfull/foolish
    and agree to help him change the bearing/hub.

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  11. r2000swler

    r2000swler Guest

    I left one step out.
    The brake drum has to be reoved first.
    This isn't going to be fun.

    Terry
     
    r2000swler, Sep 17, 2005
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  12. r2000swler

    Rocky Guest

    Is the staked nut the one on the outside of the hub?
    I have disc brakes in my 94 civic.
    134ft lbs when I reassemble?
    I had to grind off the old bearing race on the axle stub.
     
    Rocky, Sep 17, 2005
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  13. r2000swler

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Yes. The one on the back face of the trailing arm holds the spindle to the
    trailing arm.


    Same procedure.


    Yes. Then stake.
     
    TeGGeR®, Sep 19, 2005
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