1990 honda civic

Discussion in 'Civic' started by bloodhound, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. bloodhound

    bloodhound Guest

    can someone tell where the fuel pump is on a 4 door 1990 honda civic. i am
    having a problem with no gas getting to the injecters what can be the
    problem. someone told me there was a relay under the dash that controls the
    fuel pump is this true?
     
    bloodhound, Dec 30, 2004
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    Jason Guest

    If you don't get any responses except for this one, I suggest that you
    visit several auto parts stores in your town and buy a repair manual for
    your car. I have a manual made by a company named Haynes and the manual
    has really helped me find various parts on my car. Manuals by some of the
    other companies are even better. The Haynes manual for your car should
    have the following code number:
    42023--Civics all models 1984-1991
     
    Jason, Dec 30, 2004
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    jim beam Guest

    that's great for most things, but in this instance, none i've seen
    adequately address the main relay issue. that's the single most common
    failure on this vehicle, and likely exactly the problem experienced by
    the op.
     
    jim beam, Dec 30, 2004
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  4. The main relay is indeed the prime suspect for that - see
    http://tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay

    The relay can be replaced or resoldered (the solder connections on the
    internal circuit board crack).

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 30, 2004
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    Eric Guest

    Here's something else to consider when making the repair/replace decision...

    When I took my dead main relay apart I found that the relay contacts were
    burned and pitted like an old set of ignition points. Resoldering the relay
    would not have been sufficient to fix it. However, I probably could've
    polished the contacts with some 400 grit sandpaper but I decided to replace
    it with a new one since the original one lasted roughly 180,000 miles and I
    suspect that the new replacement will last for the remaining life of the
    car.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Dec 31, 2004
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  6. Good point, Eric. Since the relay is no fun to get to, replacement of
    something that old looks attractive.

    I've worked in electronics for 30 years and my experience is that contacts
    that are visibly pitted are hopeless. Relay contacts are plated with
    palladium, and when that is gone the base metal under them oxidizes at the
    point of contact and ensures intermittents forevermore.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 31, 2004
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    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Best fix . . . replace the relay with a new one, but 'beef up' the
    solder on the new one, since wave solder on Japanese items can be way
    too thin to support the weight of a relay flopping around for 300,000 Km.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 31, 2004
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  8. Oops, sent a reply to main poster, not the group.

    I have an 88 Civic, with the main relay checking out OK, on continuity, but
    low (1-2 volts) voltage getting through to the fuel pump.

    Can these relays pass low or no voltage, even though they pass the
    continuity tests listed in the Haynes manual?

    HELP!!

    Frank

    PS: Also having other weirdness happening when I press the horn, (key in
    off position) the lights that come on at startup light up, and no horn
    sounds. Once key is on, this doesn't happen.
     
    Frank van Hoof, Jan 3, 2005
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