1993 Accord: Testing Output from Ignitor

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Nick C, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. Nick C

    Nick C Guest

    My Accord won't start and I am not getting any spark from the coil.
    Fule pump is running, ECM is doing it's self check on start up, no
    check engine light, and I have fuel pressure. Before I tear the
    distributor apart, I wanted to know if there was a way to test the
    voltage comming from the ignitor to the coil. I have an external coil
    with a 4 prong connector.

    ____|---|___
    | |
    | A B |
    | C D |
    |__________|

    A - Yellow
    B - Black w/ yellow stripe
    C - Empty
    D - Black w/ white stripe

    Which terminals do I test to check the voltage from the ingitor to the
    coil?
    Thanks for the help.
     
    Nick C, Sep 20, 2004
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  2. Nick C

    Caroline Guest

    It seems to me coils do not die completely all of a sudden. More typically, for
    an old coil the coil will fail after the car is warmed up, but then when the car
    cools down (an hour or two?), the car will start again. This is based on my own
    experience as well as general reading. Old coils are sensitive to temperature.

    An ignitor on the other hand will not give a warning, as far as I know and have
    seen.

    Procedures for checking ignitor and coil:
    Go to www.autozone.com , click on "Repair Info," follow the pointers to the
    repair guides, put in your car's info as prompted, eventually click on "Engine
    Electrical," "Electronic Ignition," then "Diagnosis and Testing."

    Since as Dan said you have to remove the ignitor, if you use a magic marker and
    draw a line from left to right as you stand at the front of the car) and across
    the distributor housing to its base, then you can re-install the distributor
    housing and likely not mess up the timing as long as you re-align the mark you
    made with the magic marker.

    (Note that the distributor housing has three bolts attaching it to its base. The
    bolt holes are designed so the whole distributor housing may be rotated to
    adjust the timing.)

    With Autozone, two other good sites for info on ignitors are:

    http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/electrical/igniter/igniter.htm

    http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
     
    Caroline, Sep 20, 2004
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  3. Nick C

    Terry Guest

    Having just spent a very frusttrating three weeks fixing our God-daughter's
    1990 Civic I can say that the info at:
    http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
    was very helpfull in ruling out the ignitor. His simple LED tester allowed
    me to check for "firing" pulses from the ECM. Do NOT use a testlamp!
    Either a commercial logic probe, an oscilloscope, or a LED tester are the
    only safe ways to test for this signal! By testing for the input siganl,
    and the output of the ignitor one can decide if the ignitor or the coil
    is bad.
    Terry
     
    Terry, Sep 22, 2004
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  4. Nick C

    Graham W Guest

    Terry wrote:
    As the author of said article. thanks for the comments...
    ....and it only takes one minute to do all the necessary checks to come
    to that conclusion.

    I think I had better make a pointed comment of that 'no filament lamps'
    thing in the article just in case someone not so clued up as Terry tries
    it and pops the ECM!
     
    Graham W, Sep 22, 2004
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