1997 honda civic hardstart

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Jeffrey D., Jan 6, 2008.

  1. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    it won't if the coolant level has dropped to far - insufficient coolant
    level, no reading!
    hondas are very intolerant of low coolant levels. it's got to be filled
    to the top. all the time. check regularly. if you start losing
    coolant at any time, you got to fix the leak. gets expensive if
    ignored, as you've shown.

    that could be because there is too much blow-back reducing the manifold
    vacuum and thus the brake assist. got to stop trying to drive this
    thing until you get it fixed.
     
    jim beam, Jan 16, 2008
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  2. Jeffrey D.

    bi241 Guest


    Objection!!! First off, pressurized coolant steam is hotter than
    heated coolant. Secondly, the heat of vaporization released upon the
    condensation of steam on the gauge sender's probe causes it to be
    heated much more than does the same quantity of heated said liquid.

    It's fundamental physics, baby!!

    Correct!! That's why Honda's coolant temperature sensor and coolant
    temp gauge sender are located at the highest point of the cooling
    system. Are yours at the radiator's drain bolt? haha...

    Now, do you really think they are at the top so that when the coolant
    level starts to drop the gauge sender will stop reading? Cause, look
    ma! there's nothing to read!!

    And exactly where the gauge is at should the sender stops reading?
     
    bi241, Jan 16, 2008
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  3. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    yeah? well get your fundamental physics around the fact that the
    thermal conductivity of the metal sheath around the sensor exceeds that
    of a non-flowing gas, but /not/ that of flowing liquid with a specific
    heat capacity > 2 J g^−1 K^−1.

    er, heat rises buddy. both liquids and gases. you want to know how hot
    the hot stuff is? you put the sensor at the top.
     
    jim beam, Jan 16, 2008
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  4. Jeffrey D.

    bi241 Guest

    You're definitely confused, my friend. This formula applies for black-
    body spectrum calculation and it's got nothing to do with
    thermodynamics
     
    bi241, Jan 16, 2008
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  5. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    1. that's not a formula, that's a specific heat capacity.
    2. black body spectrum is for radiation, not conduction.
    3. heat capacity is really not thermodynamics.

    nothing personal because it's not your fault, but you evidence how our
    education system stinks. no wonder we have to import engineers from
    chindia.
     
    jim beam, Jan 16, 2008
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  6. Jeffrey D.

    Jeffrey D. Guest

    Guys,

    To fix my current problem, it turns out from my calculations I will be
    spending less if I have to buy surplus cylinder parts, cam shafts
    including rocker arms (at USD340) than buying the whole engine (at
    least USD1100 to more than USD2000 JDM parts). I saw from another post
    here that the base would cost at USD800. What do you mean by the way
    with the base?

    The labor cost for overhauling the engine here is just about USD190
    (total). I am not sure if this is a cheap labor cost for overhauling
    engines...

    Would you recommend the surplus parts which are cheaper???

    I just like to keep this car running in short distances and have
    planned already to buy a new one for longer trips.

    cheers!
    JD
     
    Jeffrey D., Jan 16, 2008
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  7. Jeffrey D.

    jim beam Guest

    but you'd still have the reliability problem. and if labor is so cheap,
    fitting the new engine will be even cheaper.

    google for "jdm honda engine" and you'll find a bunch of people selling
    low mileage used japanese engines for $400-$500usd, [for the basic ones.
    the performance engines cost more]. that is the whole motor, no need
    to disassemble, no missing parts, with warranty.
     
    jim beam, Jan 16, 2008
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  8. Jeffrey D.

    bi241 Guest


    bwahaha..you didn't get it!!
     
    bi241, Jan 16, 2008
    #28
  9. Jeffrey D.

    Jeffrey D. Guest

    Thanks guys for the input. I appreciate them all!

    Peace to you all and God bless!

    JD
     
    Jeffrey D., Jan 18, 2008
    #29
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