1998 Accord 4cyl oil filter

Discussion in 'Accord' started by edspyhill01, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. edspyhill01

    edspyhill01 Guest

    What is the best oil filter to use on a 1998 Accord 4cyl? I have to
    go back to changing my own oil. My dealer's service department is
    going downhill fast ever since they opened a Mercedes dealership and
    all the best techs were transferred there.
     
    edspyhill01, Feb 17, 2009
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  2. Lots of info and pics at:
    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/reference.html

    Boiled down to:
    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/opinions.html


    "What oil?" you ask. Muahahahah!!!
    Sneak a peak at http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php for
    more than you EVER wanted to read about motor oil!

    I <think> the 98 Accord is like most others: The oil filter is located
    on the back of the engine, about halfway up, against the firewall. You
    can't access it from above; you must reach up from below the car and
    unscrew it. Start looking for a set of drive-up ramps. :)

    -Moo
     
    Greg Campbell, Feb 17, 2009
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  3. edspyhill01

    Leftie Guest


    Honda and PureOne filters are both good choices. If it rhymes with
    "scam" it probably isn't a good filter. ;-)
     
    Leftie, Feb 17, 2009
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  4. edspyhill01

    edspyhill01 Guest

    Thank you to all for the information.

    Ed S.
     
    edspyhill01, Feb 19, 2009
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  5. edspyhill01

    Wade Guest

    I think the SuperTech filter is the best one to use, other than the
    Honda filter. Why? Because it is the only aftermarket filter I have
    seen, where the rubber gasket is rounded and not flat. The Honda
    filter has the rounded gasket. And you can't beat the price, I get
    them at Wal-Mart, it's # ST3593A
     
    Wade, Feb 20, 2009
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  6. ???
    What freaking difference does the O-ring shape make?

    Most Supertech units are roughly on par with the eminently craptastic
    Fram. Why not spend another 2 bucks and buy a Purolator, Wix, or any
    one of a dozen mid-range filters? For the life of me, I can't
    comprehend how people can spend tens of thousands on a car, then
    thousands more on oil, gas, insurance, etc., only get all tight-assed
    when picking a filter.

    Low end filters can and do disintegrate, shedding chunks of filter
    media, end caps, glue, and god knows what into the oil system. Clog a
    single oil galley and you'll destroy your engine. Also, that cheap
    media isn't going filter worth a dang...
     
    Greg Campbell, Feb 21, 2009
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  7. edspyhill01

    Tegger Guest

    @newsfe23.iad:



    No fan here of aftermarket filters of /any/ kind, but I have to ask: Your
    cite for this?
     
    Tegger, Feb 21, 2009
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  8. edspyhill01

    jim beam Guest

    it makes a difference as to whether the o-ring sticks to the block, gets
    sandwiched under a new filter, then blows out on the freeway dumping your
    oil. trust me on that one.


    not so. supertech are made by champion labs, the same people that make
    the highly expensive and acclaimed brands like mobil 1, bosch, and some
    others i can't be bothered to look up right now. don't be mislead just
    because they're branded for woolmort and underpriced.


    for the life of me, i can't comprehend paying $10 for a filter when the
    same one with a different brand label on it costs only $2.60.


    indeed. but know your facts before making sweeping statements.
     
    jim beam, Feb 21, 2009
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  9. Ahem...
    Any competent ;) home mechanic will CHECK the removed filter for the
    presence of the o-ring before blindly slapping on a new one.
    Failure to perform and o-ring check is almost as bad as watching a
    mysterious puddle of oil form beneath your car as you pour the new stuff
    in. Wanna trade screw-ups? :)

    My basic point stands: Judging filter quality on o-ring appearance
    seems a tad shallow.
    You do have a point. After posting, I surfed around and found that some
    ST models seem to be built on Champion's e-core design which isn't too
    awful. (Personally, I think they're still a little too flimsy.) My
    opinion was based on several recent discussions indicating that (some)
    ST models are/were? built by Honeywell (Fram) and are flimsy junk. W/O
    knowing what's in the box, I still think I'd give them a pass. If ST
    ever transitions to 100% Champ ecore, I'd grudgingly use one, "if I had
    to."
    Um... since when does 10 - 2 = 2.60??

    And don't go misquoting me, doofus. :p I never said $10. What's so
    horrible about spending $6 or so for decent filter media (meaningful
    filtration) and disintegration resistant construction. Show of hands:
    who would want something like this in their car?
    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1358515#Post1358515

    I'm not aware of any $2.60 filter being sold for $10. Did you have an
    example in mind, or were you just making an uninformed 'sweeping
    statement'? :) The Mobil 1 is arguably overpriced at ~$10 (6~7 sounds
    fair), but is FAR superior to any <$3 item I've ever heard of.

    I'm also unconvinced regarding quality control. Having worked several
    years in a QC department, I've found that budget products are seldom as
    consistent as mid or high end offerings. When the design is marginal,
    as with most low end filters, any variance can cause problems.
    Heh! This, coming from someone as opinionated as you?? ;)


    -Moo!
     
    Greg Campbell, Feb 21, 2009
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  10. edspyhill01

    jim beam Guest

    no, trade experience of oil changes with san francisco honda.


    it's not shallow and it's not appearance. the point is, honda use a
    specific gasket type for a reason - sticking. champion labs pay attention
    to that. fram don't.



    then you clearly haven't bothered to check one out.

    eh? a "mobil 1" filter costs $10 or more. the supertech version costs
    $2.60.


    i'm not misquoting you "doofus", i'm giving you data that you don't seem
    to have.

    ubb=showflat&Number=1358515#Post1358515

    again, you're wringing your hands and bleating based on misplaced
    supposition.


    er, i've given you the data.


    i'm "not convinced" you're paying attention!


    opinions are not facts. if i were giving you opinions, i'd preface them
    with a statement like "it is my opinion".
     
    jim beam, Feb 22, 2009
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  11. Just as an aside - a few months ago I bought a genuine Honda oil filter for
    my daughter's Accord. It felt a little funny going on - instead of gradually
    tightening it got slightly tight then came to a hard stop. I was rushed and
    finished up, but I was still surprised to find an oil leak a few days later.
    I got a good light in there and found the filter seated metal-to-metal on
    the block with oil trickling from it. I got another Honda filter and
    replaced the filter again, which cured the leak. The clearance on the new
    filter was not visibly greater than the defective one but it tightened
    normally. Weird.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 22, 2009
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