1998 Accord battery life..???

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Matthew, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. Matthew

    Matthew Guest

    I have a 1998 Accord EX V6 with 75k miles, live on Long Island. My battery
    seems fine....starts right up, green eye. For me at least this is the
    longest I ever got from a battery. Not that I am complaining but does it pay
    to just replace it anyway? Any way to tell of it's impending failure? After
    all the winter will be upon us soon and I don't want to have to call AAA
    when my battery dies
    Thanks!
    Matthew
     
    Matthew, Oct 8, 2004
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    Caroline Guest

    I have read that older batteries near death do put a strain on the alternator
    and so shorten the alternator's life.

    In the past I have waited until my car battery died before replacing it. I think
    this is a mistake. I have now started doing pre-emptive replacements.
    Businesses like Sears, dealerships, and independent shops offer battery checks
    for a small fee. Autozone will do a battery check for free but I'm not sure I'd
    rely on what Autozone's "experts" find. Still, it's no charge. Google on the net
    for details on what these checks include.

    I keep an eye on how the car is cranking at cold startup. With experience, one
    can often tell when the the battery is near-death.
    Indeed. It's probably not a good comparison, but my 1991 Civic's first two
    batteries lasted 4.5 years each before dying. This was in climates like New
    York's. I purchased the car's third new battery a few weeks ago (157.5k miles),
    as a pre-emptive measure; because winter was approaching; to spare the
    alternator; to put in an Interstate battery, which many here recommend; because
    I now live in a warmer climate and think I had a "northern climate" battery in
    the car before.
     
    Caroline, Oct 8, 2004
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  3. Matthew

    Caroline Guest

    miles),

    Oops. That should be FOURTH new battery.
     
    Caroline, Oct 8, 2004
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    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    It has been a while since I was in the tire and battery retail
    business, but I developed the feeling that original equipment batteries
    should be replaced at the five year point. Replace the others based on
    the years of their guarantee. Don't wait till you go out to start the
    car, and it won't turn over. I used to tell customers that a battery
    test was like a heart test. It was not a perfect predictor of future
    performance. bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Oct 8, 2004
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    Jon Guest

    Get yourself a voltmeter, attach it to the battery, and crank the engine one
    cold morning.
    If the voltage goes below 9.1 volts its getting ready to quit. Get a spare
    one in case.
    Don't carry it in the trunk though. An interesting situation with some
    companies,
    if you buy a battery with a two year warranty, it may be the same battery
    with a
    two year warranty. Better buy the cheap one. Or buy one designed to last and
    pay the extra.
     
    Jon, Oct 8, 2004
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    Bubba Guest

    Probably a good idea. How often may depend to some degree on how good of a
    battery you purchase and how many times (if ever) you have run it down by
    accidentally leaving the lights on (or a dor ajar, etc). Lead-Acid
    automotive batteries never fully recover 100% of their capacity once they
    have been run completely down. Run it all the way down several times and
    you may be lucky to get even 2 years out of it.

    What to buy? Personally I'd suggest getting the best you can possibly
    afford. A cheap battery is false economy. You will get what you pay for.

    Listen to the speed of your starter while cranking to start. As long as
    the starter motor spins rapidly during your first-thing-in-the-morning
    start then it is probably in no danger of imminent failure. Once the
    starter begins draging during the first 2-3 crank overs, it's time for a
    battery.
    Autozone doesn't employ any Roades Scholars, but they usually do have 1 or
    2 employees on staff at any given time who have been trained and are
    qualified to use the load tester. Only trained/qualified employees are
    allowed to use this equipment. Their "test" is pretty basic, but it will
    give you a fairly reliable result if your battery is indeed on its last
    legs.
    4 years between battery replacements is about right
     
    Bubba, Oct 9, 2004
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  7. Matthew

    Caroline Guest

    The following say otherwise:

    "A weak battery that is not storing enough power will cause the alternator to
    work harder and possibly cause premature alternator failure. Dirty or corroded
    battery terminals can severely reduce the lifespan of the battery and
    alternator." http://www.trustmymechanic.com/35.html

    " ...depleted batteries make recharging much more difficult, shortening
    alternator life." http://www.intra-tech.com/news/homeapriltwentnine.html

    "By maintaining batteries in peak condition alternators do not work as hard,
    batteries accept charge more readily so alternator life is extended. Healthy
    batteries start engines easier, so your starter should also last longer."
    http://www.megapulse.net/faq.htm

    snip
    My most recent experiene with Autozone was a month or so ago when I asked them
    to do an alternator check. They saw low readings at the battery terminals (which
    I'd already told them I saw). They told me the car needed a new alternator.

    In fact, the low readings (approx. 12.7 volts) were normal. Only when load was
    put on the system does the battery terminal voltage rise to over 14 volts, I
    learned later.

    One gets what one pays for.

    I should add that the $15-$25 one might pay for a battery check could be going
    towards a new battery.

    If the battery is over 4 years old and there are any symptoms or other good
    reasons for buying a new battery, I'd say skip the battery check and just buy
    it.

    snip
    I have seen a lot of variation in battery lives here. Some report over 7 years
    of life on their Honda batteries. Four years seems to be on the low side of
    reports here, IIRC.
     
    Caroline, Oct 9, 2004
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    Jon Guest

    That should be a batery with a one year warranty.
     
    Jon, Oct 9, 2004
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    jim beam Guest

    you've picked up some incorrect info somewhere there bubba. old
    batteries require much more charge, hence more alternator load over a
    longer period. more alternator load means the rectifiers run hotter,
    longer. rectifier life is a function of temperature - hot is bad. too
    much heat for too long = fried rectifiers = dead alternator.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2004
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    Cinder Lane Guest

    Check the battery with a good hydrometer, not with a voltmeter. If all
    the cells measure in the green, you are okay. If in the white, give the
    battery a charge and see if they make it into the green. If not,
    replace.
     
    Cinder Lane, Oct 10, 2004
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