1998 Civic - Spark Plug Gap Setting

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Kevin G., Oct 7, 2007.

  1. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    Hello,

    I am in the process of replacing my '98 Civic's spark plugs and have
    purchased some new Autolite brand ("Platinum" model) spark plugs that
    appear to be gapped at .040". However, the specifications for the
    Civic are to have the gap be .044". Should I bother trying to widen
    the gap the extra .004"? What would happen if I did not have the
    correct gap?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 7, 2007
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  2. Kevin G.

    jim beam Guest

    return these plugs and get ngk or denso - don't bother gapping them.
    don't bother with bosch either. seriously. those of us that have been
    around the block a few times and that have tried many different plugs
    will all tell you, ngk or denso in honda. nothing else works as well or
    as reliably. and both those factors save you money.
     
    jim beam, Oct 7, 2007
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  3. Kevin G.

    motsco_ Guest

     
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  4. Kevin G.

    Matt Ion Guest

    I think you people put WAY too much emphasis on specific brands of plugs
    being "better" for certain cars. My '87 Accord has been running the
    same set of Bosch Platinums for over two years with nary a hiccup. In
    fact, I only just recently had to pull them out to track a blown head
    gasket (RIP) and they're still in good condition.
     
    Matt Ion, Oct 7, 2007
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  5. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    Thanks, everyone, for your replies.

    Brand name aside, is there any danger to me installing spark plugs
    that have a .004" less gap than Honda's recommendations?

    Are there any tools (that I already have) that I can use to widen the
    gap besides a spark plug gapping tool? Will needle-nose pliers work?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 7, 2007
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  6. Kevin G.

    Tegger Guest


    Buy the correct plugs. The ones whose numbers end in "-11" are already
    pregapped to .044". NGK is correct. Autolite is not.

    If the gap is too small by .004", you'll get ever so slightly lower mileage
    and ever so slightly higher emissions. You won't even notice the
    difference.
     
    Tegger, Oct 7, 2007
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  7. Kevin G.

    Tegger Guest



    Not really. See my other post.

    But it's still not correct. You have an emissions system that's pretty
    sensitive. Use of the wrong -- or wrongly gapped -- plugs increases the
    probability of a Check Engine light illumination.




    That would not be smart. You should use a spark plug gapping tool. And,
    unfortunately, it is way too easy to scratch the platinum coating while
    gapping,in which case the coating will erode off in no time.

    Also, burrs caused by pliers will cause hot spots on the plugs, which can
    lead to pre-ignition and engine damage.

    If I were you, I'd bite the bullet and buy the correct plugs as given on
    your hood sticker.
     
    Tegger, Oct 7, 2007
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  8. Kevin G.

    jim beam Guest

    if your objective in using these plugs is to have something longer
    lasting or something that "preforms" better, consider ngk iridiums.
     
    jim beam, Oct 7, 2007
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  9. Kevin G.

    jim beam Guest

    i'm sorry, performs, not preforms.
     
    jim beam, Oct 7, 2007
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  10. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    Thanks again, everyone, for your replies. It looks like I should be
    focusing my attention on NGK or Bosch spark plugs, which are both the
    exact gap that I need.

    Now that we have taken care of the spark plugs, I have also already
    purchased the Bosch spark plug wire set. Is this a "bad" wire set? I
    am reading some negative comments about Bosch in this post. If I did
    purchase the NGK plugs, would they "mesh" good with the Bosch wires?
    Or, should I stick with Bosch plugs since I already have the Bosch
    wires?

    Thanks for your continued assistance.

    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 7, 2007
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  11. Kevin G.

    Matt Ion Guest

    You can use pliers or a small screwdriver, but a proper gapping tool
    should only cost you about $2-$5. Any good set of plug gauges will
    include a gapping tool.
     
    Matt Ion, Oct 7, 2007
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  12. Kevin G.

    jim beam Guest

    again, i would avoid bosch. i've had many bad experiences with those
    things being fine one day, visually perfect on inspection, but the car
    will simply refuse to start. ngk will keep on working until the
    electrodes are melted stubs of nothingness. absolutely utterly reliable.

    again, i'd take them back and spring the few extra bucks for oem or ngk.
    if you want a little extra fizz, the coiled core plug leads are
    excellent - magnecor or, of course, ngk.
     
    jim beam, Oct 7, 2007
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  13. Kevin G.

    Tegger Guest



    NO! No pliers!

    Pliers can make burrs that can cause pre-ignition!
     
    Tegger, Oct 7, 2007
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  14. Kevin G.

    Tegger Guest



    If you like to make sure your catalytic converter lasts as long as
    possible, only OEM wires are correct.
     
    Tegger, Oct 7, 2007
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  15. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    How am I able to determine what brand of OEM wires they are? I don't
    have any spark plug-related information on the underside of my hood

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 7, 2007
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  16. Kevin G.

    Tegger Guest


    OEM wires are available only at your local Honda dealer.
     
    Tegger, Oct 7, 2007
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  17. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    Tegger,

    Thanks for your replies (and thanks, also, to everyone else whose
    replied)...

    My '98 Civic has 153,000 miles on it and I think it has only had one
    tune-up in its lifetime (probably around 60,000 miles, but I do not
    know for sure). I know that the tune-up was not done at a Honda
    dealership, but was done at one of those automotive repair places
    (Monro Muffler, I believe). The automotive place wouldn't use OEM
    parts, would they?

    I just recently replaced the oxygen sensor (before CC) because of
    check engine light trouble codes indicating a defective O2 sensor,
    plus my car was having hesistation problems and rough idling. I think
    now is a good time to do a tune-up. In addition to replacing the
    plugs and wires, I'm also going to replace the cap and rotor.

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 8, 2007
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  18. Kevin G.

    Matt Ion Guest

    I didn't say it was a GOOD IDEA... :)
     
    Matt Ion, Oct 8, 2007
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    E Meyer Guest

     
    E Meyer, Oct 8, 2007
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  20. Kevin G.

    Kevin G. Guest

    I recently had the car in the auto repair shop after the check engine
    light came on. I wanted to get a "complete" engine diagnosis, and
    they told me that my car need a "major" tune-up and a new O2 sensor.
    They didn't mention anything about timing belt problems. Is this
    something that should've/would've been discovered during this engine
    diagnosis?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
     
    Kevin G., Oct 9, 2007
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