1999 Accord V6 transmission problems

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Pete, Aug 29, 2003.

  1. You're saying that, though the car worked fine and showed no signs of
    problems, you dumped it because the mfr would not tell you why it was not
    part of a warranty extension for other model years? Did it not occur to
    you that the *known* flaw had been fixed in the 2002 model year
    transmission? It's been mentioned here that this is the case, though I
    have no reference for that.

    Do you think that Volvo is going to respond better to such letters
    questioning *potential* warranty issues? I wouldn't bet on it. Good luck
    with your Volvo but from what I hear their failure/repair rate in general
    has not been all that great in recent years. If your Accord had actually
    failed your complaint would have sounded a bit more reasonable.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Aug 31, 2003
    #41
  2. You're saying that, though the car worked fine and showed no signs of
    problems, you dumped it because the mfr would not tell you why it was not
    part of a warranty extension for other model years? Did it not occur to
    you that the *known* flaw had been fixed in the 2002 model year
    transmission? It's been mentioned here that this is the case, though I
    have no reference for that.

    Do you think that Volvo is going to respond better to such letters
    questioning *potential* warranty issues? I wouldn't bet on it. Good luck
    with your Volvo but from what I hear their failure/repair rate in general
    has not been all that great in recent years. If your Accord had actually
    failed your complaint would have sounded a bit more reasonable.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Aug 31, 2003
    #42
  3. Pete

    E. Meyer Guest

    I'm not Chip, but I'm looking at the diagram of the 5 speed automatic in the
    2000 TL Helms book. It doesn't have a filter in the traditional sense.
    There are screens in the fluid passageways at various places in the
    transmission. It would have to be disassembled to get to them.
     
    E. Meyer, Aug 31, 2003
    #43
  4. Pete

    E. Meyer Guest

    I'm not Chip, but I'm looking at the diagram of the 5 speed automatic in the
    2000 TL Helms book. It doesn't have a filter in the traditional sense.
    There are screens in the fluid passageways at various places in the
    transmission. It would have to be disassembled to get to them.
     
    E. Meyer, Aug 31, 2003
    #44
  5. As a long-time owner of both Volvos and Hondas, I would say that
    trading a Honda for a Volvo for reliability reasons because Honda
    isn't extending your warranty is like moving from Chicago to Baghdad
    for safety reasons because you heard that purse snatching is up in
    Chicago.

    If Honda or Toyota had a car that was a direct substitute for my Volvo
    240 wagon, I would be at the dealership when it opened Tuesday
    morning. And I wouldn't be asking about an extended warranty.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 31, 2003
    #45
  6. As a long-time owner of both Volvos and Hondas, I would say that
    trading a Honda for a Volvo for reliability reasons because Honda
    isn't extending your warranty is like moving from Chicago to Baghdad
    for safety reasons because you heard that purse snatching is up in
    Chicago.

    If Honda or Toyota had a car that was a direct substitute for my Volvo
    240 wagon, I would be at the dealership when it opened Tuesday
    morning. And I wouldn't be asking about an extended warranty.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 31, 2003
    #46
  7. Pete

    IleneDover Guest

    Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
    world. Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
    Japanese quality. They are good cars but every day more people
    are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
    other vehicles on the road. When they do, they cost a lot more
    to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
    called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
    another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
    money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
    by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
    sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)



    mike hunt
     
    IleneDover, Aug 31, 2003
    #47
  8. Pete

    IleneDover Guest

    Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
    world. Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
    Japanese quality. They are good cars but every day more people
    are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
    other vehicles on the road. When they do, they cost a lot more
    to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
    called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
    another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
    money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
    by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
    sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)



    mike hunt
     
    IleneDover, Aug 31, 2003
    #48
  9. Pete

    IleneDover Guest

    Question! Does anyone think a 2% failure rate for ANYTHING, on
    20,000 cars out of 1,000,000, is extremely high, average or do
    you think it is low? Think about it, there are 18 million new
    vehicles sold in the US yearly. Apply a little logic here. That
    54 to 72 million cars still in warranty. ;)


    mike hunt
     
    IleneDover, Aug 31, 2003
    #49
  10. Pete

    IleneDover Guest

    Question! Does anyone think a 2% failure rate for ANYTHING, on
    20,000 cars out of 1,000,000, is extremely high, average or do
    you think it is low? Think about it, there are 18 million new
    vehicles sold in the US yearly. Apply a little logic here. That
    54 to 72 million cars still in warranty. ;)


    mike hunt
     
    IleneDover, Aug 31, 2003
    #50
  11. Pete

    Pete Guest

    I wasn't the one that said I'd buy an extended warranty. Never have, never
    will. I was disputing Gordon's contention that a transmission failure is
    "not a catastrophe".
    Both of these vehicles was and are meticulously maintained. Luck had nothing
    to do with it. I also have a 1997 Ford Explorer with 90,000 miles on it.
    Another vehicle notorious for tranny problems. None yet. BTW, Ford
    recognized that it's service recommendations for the transmission were
    inadequate. So they sent a letter out to owners recommending transmission
    service at 25,000 mile intervals for ALL use categories.
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #51
  12. Pete

    Pete Guest

    I wasn't the one that said I'd buy an extended warranty. Never have, never
    will. I was disputing Gordon's contention that a transmission failure is
    "not a catastrophe".
    Both of these vehicles was and are meticulously maintained. Luck had nothing
    to do with it. I also have a 1997 Ford Explorer with 90,000 miles on it.
    Another vehicle notorious for tranny problems. None yet. BTW, Ford
    recognized that it's service recommendations for the transmission were
    inadequate. So they sent a letter out to owners recommending transmission
    service at 25,000 mile intervals for ALL use categories.
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #52
  13. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Your trolling, right, Mike? And if not, you're exhibiting an astonishing
    ignorance of the facts of present day car manufacturing reality.
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #53
  14. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Your trolling, right, Mike? And if not, you're exhibiting an astonishing
    ignorance of the facts of present day car manufacturing reality.
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #54
  15. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Thanks for the info. I've since spoken with an independent transmission
    specialist about this. He said the screens are some of the last parts to be
    removed when you tear apart a Honda transmission for rebuilding. At that
    point you may as well rebuild :-(
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #55
  16. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Thanks for the info. I've since spoken with an independent transmission
    specialist about this. He said the screens are some of the last parts to be
    removed when you tear apart a Honda transmission for rebuilding. At that
    point you may as well rebuild :-(
     
    Pete, Aug 31, 2003
    #56
  17. Pete

    SoCalMike Guest

    finance the warranty over 5 years, for 10%... that only makes it $3000!
    98% likely, or moreso with due care.
    neighbor of mine... 3 of em, 2 under warranty. why they sprung for a third?
    dunno.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 31, 2003
    #57
  18. Pete

    SoCalMike Guest

    finance the warranty over 5 years, for 10%... that only makes it $3000!
    98% likely, or moreso with due care.
    neighbor of mine... 3 of em, 2 under warranty. why they sprung for a third?
    dunno.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 31, 2003
    #58
  19. It certainly sounded to me like it was the main factor in dumping the car.
    Same theory as the tree that nobody heard falling?:)
    I hope Dizzy sees this one - it's perverse... to copy text up from the
    previous post to quote it in a top-post. Is in-line reponse so difficult?
    A quick search on Volvo and complaints will turn up plenty - every mfr has
    complaints against them of course but Volvo has some of the most vociferous
    group I've seen... ranking up there with VW and with similar non-reponsive
    results. There's nothing very "Swedish" about your car I'm afraid; Volvo,
    as a company is kinda like Mitsubishi in Japan, in that they dabble in lots
    of heavy industrial stuff but their car division, which is now owned by
    Ford of course, does not have much of a design capability. Much of their
    car design is sub-contracted to various consulting companies, like the
    recently liquidated TWR. Like the rest of the entire Ford empire they are
    bleeding red ink - the only exception is Aston Martin, which is making lots
    of money on limited production luxury cars... which are back ordered up to
    2 years on some models.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Sep 1, 2003
    #59
  20. It certainly sounded to me like it was the main factor in dumping the car.
    Same theory as the tree that nobody heard falling?:)
    I hope Dizzy sees this one - it's perverse... to copy text up from the
    previous post to quote it in a top-post. Is in-line reponse so difficult?
    A quick search on Volvo and complaints will turn up plenty - every mfr has
    complaints against them of course but Volvo has some of the most vociferous
    group I've seen... ranking up there with VW and with similar non-reponsive
    results. There's nothing very "Swedish" about your car I'm afraid; Volvo,
    as a company is kinda like Mitsubishi in Japan, in that they dabble in lots
    of heavy industrial stuff but their car division, which is now owned by
    Ford of course, does not have much of a design capability. Much of their
    car design is sub-contracted to various consulting companies, like the
    recently liquidated TWR. Like the rest of the entire Ford empire they are
    bleeding red ink - the only exception is Aston Martin, which is making lots
    of money on limited production luxury cars... which are back ordered up to
    2 years on some models.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Sep 1, 2003
    #60
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