1999 CRV: Keeping clock bright when lites are on?

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
    DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was an
    assumption that lights only go on at night.

    Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for "allways
    bright" on the clock?

    If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always bright?
    I'm assuming that at the very least there would be something on the clock
    itself. Maybe 3 wires?----[ground, low, high] or maybe [ground, Positive,
    lites-on] ?

    Thanks!

    PS. Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I had
    asked here how to remove the clock. That damn thing is impossible to
    remove! Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that too, I'd
    appreciate it.

    --
    Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding. Dogs need
    to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses before being
    bred. If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to the genetic
    quality of the dog (again, being purebred is *not* enough), you are what is
    known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the problem. Most of the
    congenital problems of present day dogs are traceable directly to backyard
    breeding. Spay or neuter your pet responsibly, and don't just think that
    you're somehow the exception and can breed a dog without taking the care
    described.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 17, 2005
    #1
  2. Thomas G. Marshall

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ----------------------------

    You could add true DRL to your '99 and solve the problem, and save fuel
    while you're at it. Using the headlights as DRL turns on about 8 other
    unneeded bulbs, and the headlights run at full power. Take a look at:

    http://www.hamsar.com/drlkits.htm

    For some reason I think model 45060 is the right one to simulate the
    Canadian version of Honda DRL on a CR-V.

    I can find the other answer in my manual . . . Just takes time. The
    clock pops out with a butterknife. Put tape on the lower edge of the
    dash first.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 17, 2005
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  3. motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ coughed up:
    Tried that----the tolerance of that gap is so incredibly small that a
    butterknife all by itself bends the clock into scary proportions!. Chipped
    the thing too attempting this. I'm not very good at yanking out dash
    components.

    Also----the clips that they use on the dashboard that "snaps into" special
    rectangular holes in other parts of the dash, can pop off and fly deep into
    the cavity (somewhere) to never be seen again. They just are not clamped
    onto the dash part well enough. Arg.



    --
    Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding. Dogs
    need to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses
    before being bred. If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to
    the genetic quality of the dog (again, being purebred is *not* enough),
    you are what is known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the
    problem. Most of the congenital problems of present day dogs are
    traceable directly to backyard breeding. Spay or neuter your pet
    responsibly, and don't just think that you're somehow the exception and
    can breed a dog without taking the care described.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 17, 2005
    #3
  4. I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
    DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was
    an assumption that lights only go on at night.

    Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for
    "allways bright" on the clock?

    If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always
    bright? I'm assuming that at the very least there would be something on
    the clock itself. Maybe 3 wires?----[ground, low, high] or maybe
    [ground, Positive, lites-on] ?

    Thanks!

    PS. Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I
    had asked here how to remove the clock. That damn thing is impossible
    to remove! Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that
    too, I'd appreciate it.

    --
    Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding. Dogs
    need to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses
    before being bred. If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to
    the genetic quality of the dog (again, being purebred is not enough),
    you are what is known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the
    problem. Most of the congenital problems of present day dogs are
    traceable directly to backyard breeding. Spay or neuter your pet
    responsibly, and don't just think that you're somehow the exception and
    can breed a dog without taking the care described.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 17, 2005
    #4
  5. I drive with my headlights on during the day (the '99 does not come with
    DTRL), but the clock dims out when the lights go on, because there was
    an assumption that lights only go on at night.

    Is there a configuration somewhere within the CRV that allows for
    "allways bright" on the clock?

    If not, is there a wire that I can cut or short to make it always
    bright? I'm assuming that at the very least there would be something on
    the clock itself. Maybe 3 wires?----[ground, low, high] or maybe
    [ground, Positive, lites-on] ?

    Thanks!

    PS. Before I thought to ask the question if there was another way, I
    had asked here how to remove the clock. That damn thing is impossible
    to remove! Stubborn little sucker----if you have any hints about that
    too, I'd appreciate it.

    --
    Having a dog that is a purebred does not qualify it for breeding. Dogs
    need to have several generations of clearances for various illnesses
    before being bred. If you are breeding dogs without taking care as to
    the genetic quality of the dog (again, being purebred is not enough),
    you are what is known as a "backyard breeder" and are part of the
    problem. Most of the congenital problems of present day dogs are
    traceable directly to backyard breeding. Spay or neuter your pet
    responsibly, and don't just think that you're somehow the exception and
    can breed a dog without taking the care described.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 17, 2005
    #5
  6. Thomas G. Marshall

    twfsa Guest

    Go to Wal Mart and buy a stick on clock.

    Tom
     
    twfsa, Jul 18, 2005
    #6
  7. "Thomas G. Marshall"
    You talk about the clock, but you forget that the clock is part of the
    instrument lighting overall.

    On some cars, the dashboard light dimmer switch has a position whereby
    it turns all the dash lights on full strength, plenty bright for anytime.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 18, 2005
    #7
  8. "Thomas G. Marshall"
    You talk about the clock, but you forget that the clock is part of the
    instrument lighting overall.

    On some cars, the dashboard light dimmer switch has a position whereby
    it turns all the dash lights on full strength, plenty bright for anytime.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 18, 2005
    #8
  9. twfsa coughed up:
    LOL
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 18, 2005
    #9
  10. Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
    No I didn't. The clock is /not/ part of the instrument lighting. It is
    under separate control, high and low based only on whether or not the lights
    are on, and is not affected by the dashboard light dimmer.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 18, 2005
    #10
  11. Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
    No I didn't. The clock is /not/ part of the instrument lighting. It is
    under separate control, high and low based only on whether or not the lights
    are on, and is not affected by the dashboard light dimmer.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 18, 2005
    #11
  12. "Thomas G. Marshall"
    Man, Honda is making things CHEAP. I guess that's their philosophy on
    the Civic-based line.

    More and more, it's obvious that the beancounters are in charge at
    Honda, and that engineers are way down the ladder.

    Damn shame.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 18, 2005
    #12
  13. "Thomas G. Marshall"
    Man, Honda is making things CHEAP. I guess that's their philosophy on
    the Civic-based line.

    More and more, it's obvious that the beancounters are in charge at
    Honda, and that engineers are way down the ladder.

    Damn shame.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 18, 2005
    #13
  14. Thomas G. Marshall

    motsco_ _ Guest

    -------------------------

    Here's a better link to an article about the '99 clock:

    http://www.hondasuv.com/crv/viewtopic.php?t=66

    'curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 18, 2005
    #14
  15. Thomas G. Marshall

    Dick Guest

    Our Accord does that, except that there are other things that dim when
    the headlights come on. I can leave it on daylight only (doesn't
    matter if the headlights are on or off) by turning the odometer reset
    knob. Found that by accident. I suppose if I had read the book it
    would have explained it. :)

    Dick
     
    Dick, Jul 18, 2005
    #15
  16. Thomas G. Marshall

    Milleron Guest

    I think OP said that the dimmer rheostat doesn't affect his clock
    lighting. That's why he's asking here if there's a way to keep it
    fully illuminated with the headlights on.

    There are ways to install DTRLs which means feeding a reduced voltage
    to the high beam lamps all the time, but it's expensive and
    complicated (for an amateur). I investigated it, and it most
    definitely is not a job for the likes of me. I'd have to have it done
    by a pro, and I think that parts and labor would run the price up to
    several hundred dollars. That's the only way I've discovered to
    overcome the problem with dash illumination in American Accords. I'd
    call the Canadians lucky, but have you ever been there in the
    winter?!? It's foolish of Honda America not to make DTRLs a standard
    or, at the very least, an optional feature.

    I'd love to hear the regular contributors weigh in on this question.

    Ron
     
    Milleron, Jul 18, 2005
    #16
  17. Thomas G. Marshall

    Dick Guest

    I was not talking about a dimmer rheostat. I was talking about a
    switch that is connected to the odometer reset knob. It gives you the
    option of having the clock dim with the headlamps or not. I was
    suggesting this so that the OP could see if his CRV perhaps had the
    same kind of switch.

    Dick
     
    Dick, Jul 18, 2005
    #17
  18. Thomas G. Marshall

    motsco_ _ Guest

    -------------------

    Use a narrow putty knife then, they are way thinner than the common
    butter knife. I can't find the instructions over at hondasuv.com, but I
    know they are there. Sign in and use the SEARCH function. Look for clock.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 18, 2005
    #18
  19. Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
    I'm not sure that it /should/ be part of the dash dimmer. It has differing
    requirements. It needs to be on both when the headlights are on and off,
    and they need to be brightest during the day, and dimmed at night. At least
    that would be the theory.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 18, 2005
    #19
  20. Elmo P. Shagnasty coughed up:
    I'm not sure that it /should/ be part of the dash dimmer. It has differing
    requirements. It needs to be on both when the headlights are on and off,
    and they need to be brightest during the day, and dimmed at night. At least
    that would be the theory.
     
    Thomas G. Marshall, Jul 18, 2005
    #20
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