1999 CRV: Modify Cig Lighter to "always on"

Randolph coughed up:

HUH! If I wanted to reuse the same hot wire that is already going to the
lighter, is there a way to keep the lighter fuse in place, and easily
redirect it's input current to receive from one of the always on's?

Previously:

ignition -----> lighter fuse -----> lighter wire -----> cig. lighter.

Can I do this:

tap into always on -----> lighter fuse -----> lighter wire -----> cig.
lighter.

easily? It seems like no matter which way I do this, it's going to get
ugly.

 

No can do: the fuse that the lighter's on by default is built in to the
fuse box, and in my the '94 Civic (#19) also supplies power to the dash
lights and the radio. It's quite possible that your CRV has multiple
items on the lighter fuse as well. You'd have to seriously screw with
the fuse block to route always-on power to the hot side of the lighter
fuse. By doing so you'd also be supplying always-on power to all fuses
on the same bus as the lighter fuse: *definitely* not a good idea, so
you'd have to cut the bus so as to isolate the lighter fuse. Really unwise.

It's a relatively easy matter to pick up an inline fuse, disconnect the
lighter wire and run it to the inline fuse connected to an always-on
option connector. Much easier and not permanently damaging.

 

No can do: the fuse that the lighter's on by default is built in to the
fuse box, and in my the '94 Civic (#19) also supplies power to the dash
lights and the radio. It's quite possible that your CRV has multiple
items on the lighter fuse as well. You'd have to seriously screw with
the fuse block to route always-on power to the hot side of the lighter
fuse. By doing so you'd also be supplying always-on power to all fuses
on the same bus as the lighter fuse: *definitely* not a good idea, so
you'd have to cut the bus so as to isolate the lighter fuse. Really unwise.

It's a relatively easy matter to pick up an inline fuse, disconnect the
lighter wire and run it to the inline fuse connected to an always-on
option connector. Much easier and not permanently damaging.

 

Abeness coughed up:

Thanks. Yeah, I found that out (see other thread started by me, where I
discuss how I /did/ change the power at the fuse box, let it run overnight,
and then changed it back).

------> Do you know how the heck I can get to the back of that cig lighter?
I cannot seem to get that part of the dashboard off, nor can I "pop" out the
lighter compartment.

 

Abeness coughed up:

Thanks. Yeah, I found that out (see other thread started by me, where I
discuss how I /did/ change the power at the fuse box, let it run overnight,
and then changed it back).

------> Do you know how the heck I can get to the back of that cig lighter?
I cannot seem to get that part of the dashboard off, nor can I "pop" out the
lighter compartment.

 

Yeah, I saw that thread only after posting. Had a lot of catchup to do
after a few much-needed days away.

Sorry, I don't. Might be helpful to pick up a copy of the shop manual
for your vehicle from http://helminc.com , though I suspect if you poke
around closely enough you'll find the screws holding the console in place.

 

Yeah, I saw that thread only after posting. Had a lot of catchup to do
after a few much-needed days away.

Sorry, I don't. Might be helpful to pick up a copy of the shop manual
for your vehicle from http://helminc.com , though I suspect if you poke
around closely enough you'll find the screws holding the console in place.

 

Randolph coughed up:

....[rip]...

Update. For now I'm waiting for a service manual to show up in the mail
before attempting opening up the dash again. This is ridiculous----I've
never had this much trouble with a car dash before. I opened it up on my
own using simple eyeball-logic, ended up with a nearly impossible situation
to figure out----there are screws at the bottom that seem to hold 2 metal
frames together, serving double duty. It looks like the removal of those
screws would cause an inner frame to fall away, out of reach. Not going to
risk it.

Also, just "pulling" on the dash component like one of the instructions said
is not always nifty: When I did it, one of those cheap metal clips came
UNDONE from the plastic tab that was supposed to hold it. It fell off, and
landed somewhere deep inside the car. BTW, I discovered another place
missing one of those clips entirely. Thing holds together fine, there are
enough clips, but I'm spooked enough to wait.

Now, on to a real question concerning the options connectors.

As I said, I know which one of them is always on.

But to avoid actually connecting the grounding wire to a chassis bolt, I'd
like to quick-connect (1/4 inch blade connector) to an options connector
near the power one.

If I discover one of the options connectors to be 0 Ohms between it and
chassis-ground (with or without the engine running), am I more or less
guaranteed that it is Okidoki to use as the ground connection for the cig.
lighter? When my cell phone charger or cig lighter is placed in it, will
the travel through current possibly hit something else attached to that
options-ground?

Thanks!

 

Randolph coughed up:

....[rip]...

Update. For now I'm waiting for a service manual to show up in the mail
before attempting opening up the dash again. This is ridiculous----I've
never had this much trouble with a car dash before. I opened it up on my
own using simple eyeball-logic, ended up with a nearly impossible situation
to figure out----there are screws at the bottom that seem to hold 2 metal
frames together, serving double duty. It looks like the removal of those
screws would cause an inner frame to fall away, out of reach. Not going to
risk it.

Also, just "pulling" on the dash component like one of the instructions said
is not always nifty: When I did it, one of those cheap metal clips came
UNDONE from the plastic tab that was supposed to hold it. It fell off, and
landed somewhere deep inside the car. BTW, I discovered another place
missing one of those clips entirely. Thing holds together fine, there are
enough clips, but I'm spooked enough to wait.

Now, on to a real question concerning the options connectors.

As I said, I know which one of them is always on.

But to avoid actually connecting the grounding wire to a chassis bolt, I'd
like to quick-connect (1/4 inch blade connector) to an options connector
near the power one.

If I discover one of the options connectors to be 0 Ohms between it and
chassis-ground (with or without the engine running), am I more or less
guaranteed that it is Okidoki to use as the ground connection for the cig.
lighter? When my cell phone charger or cig lighter is placed in it, will
the travel through current possibly hit something else attached to that
options-ground?

Thanks!