2000 Accord SE O2 sensor problem

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. I am trying to solve an oxygen sensor problem with my 2000 Honda Accord
    with a 2.3 liter ULEV motor. A couple of months ago, the check engine
    light came on, and along with it the idle got a little rough, and gas
    mileage is down about 10 percent. I had the computer scanned at
    Autozone, and they indicated that it needed a MAP sensor, which I
    replaced to no effect. I had it rescanned, and it came up with codes
    P1166 and P1167, which are the Primary O2 sensor and O2 sensor heating
    circuit.

    I ordered a generic Bosch O2 sensor and installed it as instructed. Even
    after several weeks of driving (and I drive a lot) the light didn't go
    out. I double checked my wiring, but everything looked okay, and even
    redid the splices. With emmissions testing due in about 3 weeks, I took
    the car to my neighborhood mechanic, who scanned it again. This time, I
    am getting only a code P1167 (Primary O2 sensor heating circuit), and
    was unable to clear the code, and the engine still idles a little rough.
    I carefully checked out the sensor electrically, and I am getting
    about 12 or 13 ohms across the heater, which seems reasonable. What is
    more interesting is that I checked the voltage across the element while
    it was running, and I seem to be getting about 9 volts across the
    heater, but 14.2 volts from either side of the heater to ground.

    I suspect it could be one of 3 things.

    a.) The Bosch sensor is incompatible with the Honda ECU, in which case I
    will have to shell out a couple hundred bucks for a new O2 sensor.

    b.) A wiring problem, such as a high resistance connection between the
    ECU and the O2 sensor. Should be able to track it down and correct it if
    that is the case.

    c.) A bad ECU

    I don't want to have to buy a new o2 sensor if the problem is with B or
    C, nor do I want to spend upwards of a grand on a new ECU, or probably a
    couple of hundred on a junkyard unit if I am not absolutely sure. Any
    ideas folks?

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    Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&, Oct 28, 2004
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  2. Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&

    Howard Guest

    Had you gone to your dealer in the first place you would not get the
    runaround from all the people who think they know your Honda, but only guess
    at what they're doing. They dealer knows your Honda, they have the
    knowledge, they have the proper tools and they have the right parts. This is
    just another example of where the dealer in the long run is cheaper and will
    deliver a more reliable vehicle back to you. Unless you would like to
    continue playing with the same problem week after week.
    Oh, by the way, did any of your "experts" bother to clear the code for you?
    :)
    Live and learn
    Howard
     
    Howard, Oct 29, 2004
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  3. Bruce_Nolte_N3LSY&

    Chip Stein Guest

    there was a bulletin on this problem. not a recall, so if it's not a
    warranty issue. call the dealer and ask about it. they were replacing
    injectors and ECU's.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Oct 29, 2004
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  4. Usually, a 4-pin universal O2 Denso heater circuit should measure
    about 4-Ohm. That could explain why the ECU is measuring an
    inconsistent voltage drop or incorrect current amperage reading.
    Japanese cars tend to do best with a universal Denso (OEM, $90)
    And I tend to avoid Autozone parts and rely on import suppliers for
    reliable parts.

    Rick
     
    Ricky Spartacus, Oct 29, 2004
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