2001 Accord Coupe Rear Rotor Replacement

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Lucas Tam, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. Lucas Tam

    Lucas Tam Guest

    Hi all,

    I just took my 2001 Accord Coupe EX-V6 in for rear brake pad
    replacement. The dealer told me that my rear rotors need to be replaced
    as well - I only have ~58,000KM (or about 35K miles). I find it a bit
    surprising that I need ot replace my rotors so quickly.

    The car is driven every other day, and most of the time it sits in my
    garage. I live in Toronto Canada so maybe that'll give you an idea how
    the weather is like (Hot in the summer, cool in the fall, cold in the
    winters).

    On average I get about 250KM a week. Could leaving the car in the garage
    so much cause the rotors to wear out prematurely? The service technican
    coulnd't come up with a concrete reason as to why they would wear out so
    early besides:

    -Driving Habits
    -Leaving the car outside/inside for extended periods of time (rust/dew
    build up?)
    -Inconsistent service (Not the case... i take my car in at the
    recommended periods regularly)

    I had always thought rotors would last 80,000KM to 120,000KM before they
    need to be replaced.

    Anyhow, I'm just wondering if 58,000KM is a bit early for a rear rotor
    replacement and if other 2001 Accord owners have had their rotors
    replaced so early(?) as well.

    Thanks.
     
    Lucas Tam, Nov 29, 2004
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  2. Lucas Tam

    Randolph Guest

    My '94 Civic with 168 000 km on it still has the original rotors front
    and back. Having the rotors worn out at 58 000 km seems strange. Doing a
    brake job is easy money for the shop, and it is hard for most customers
    to say that they don't want it done if the shop wants to do it.

    In my limited experience, cars with automatic transmissions wear out
    brakes more quickly than stickshifts do. I am guessing you have an
    automatic.

    How many times have you replaced the rear brake pads? Any chance that
    they were worn out and that the backer was scraping against the rotor?

    Did the shop say why they were replacing the rotors? Were they warped
    or were they just worn too thin for continued service?
     
    Randolph, Nov 29, 2004
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  3. Lucas Tam

    TeGGer® Guest


    It's rust.

    Lack of driving is what does it. Very common, especially in Northern US
    states and southern Canada. The absolute worst is when you drive the car in
    the snow or rain, then park it in a garage. That salt-laden moisture then
    takes a long time to evaporate and munches away at metal like crazy.

    Sorry, but what you're experiencing is normal for your climate and driving
    habits.


    If you drive a lot or live in a warm climate, yes they will.
     
    TeGGer®, Nov 29, 2004
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  4. Lucas Tam

    TeGGer® Guest


    Strange only if you've never seen the horrors of rust.
    Take a look at these 4-year old rotors:
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes1.html

    Do yours look like that?
     
    TeGGer®, Nov 29, 2004
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  5. Lucas Tam

    Randolph Guest

    Nope. I left snow and road salt nearly 20 years ago. I am not going
    back!
     
    Randolph, Nov 29, 2004
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  6. Lucas Tam

    Lucas Tam Guest

    First time replacing my brake pads - I had the whole set replaced (front
    and back). Two shops told me my brake pads were low - about 5 - 10% of life
    left in them.
    The shop told me my rear rotors were thin and could not be machined.
    However, the front rotors still had enough material to machine.

    The service tech was a bit surprised himself I needed to replacement them.
    He said that rotors last between 60,000KM - 120,000KM and I caught the low
    end. He also said because I leave the car in the garage for a couple days
    at a time, rust may have built up and caused premature wear. In anycase, he
    didn't have an idea why they would wear out so quickly... just bad luck he
    said?

    Any other ideas?
     
    Lucas Tam, Nov 30, 2004
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  7. Lucas Tam

    Lucas Tam Guest

    I did notice the rust build ups... I used to go away to school during the
    week and I would leave my car at home. On the weekends I would notice a
    thin layer of rust - and after driving the rust would be gone. I didn't
    think much of it at the time, but I did wonder how much material was being
    stripped away and the effects on the car... I guess I now know.

    Thanks for the info.
     
    Lucas Tam, Nov 30, 2004
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  8. Lucas Tam

    John Ings Guest

    Rust doesn't happen when its cold. All chemical action slows down at
    low temperatures. The rusting occurs as temperatures rise above
    freezing. Heated garages are murder on cars that have to drive on
    salt-laden roads. Leave it outside if you can.
     
    John Ings, Nov 30, 2004
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  9. Lucas Tam

    Randolph Guest

    I think the rust explanation seems plausible. I am just particularly
    paranoid about dealerships and brake jobs. At service, my local dealer
    told me that the front pads were down to 2 mm and had to be replaced. I
    told them no, thinking I'd do the job myself for less. After taking out
    the old pads, I was not able to measure less than 7 mm anywhere. And
    yes, I know to measure only the lining, not the whole pad.
     
    Randolph, Nov 30, 2004
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  10. Lucas Tam

    jim beam Guest

    hideous. that thing needs to be hosed off every time it comes home from
    the salt. i used to do that with my old rust buckets when i lived in
    that kind of climate - always proplnged their lives significantly.
     
    jim beam, Nov 30, 2004
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  11. Lucas Tam

    SoCalMike Guest

    i noticed a lot of use of emory cloth... why not use a fine bristled
    wire brush in a drill? i figure as long as the bristles are fine, it
    shouldnt do any harm to all that cast iron and steel. dont wanna use it
    around the rubber seals, however :)
     
    SoCalMike, Nov 30, 2004
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  12. Lucas Tam

    TeGGer® Guest


    50-grit emery cloth is more aggressive than a wire brush, and as you imply,
    you get better control around the rubber components. The areas you need to
    sand are small and are difficult to get at completely with a wire brush.
    Also a wire brush has a tendency to polish the rust instead of actually
    removing it, so I prefer emery cloth.

    If I have the rotor off, then I do the mount bracket with a file.
     
    TeGGer®, Nov 30, 2004
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