2001 Accord EX (4-cyl) is at 102k miles - Shows SIX trouble codes!!Yikes!

Discussion in 'Accord' started by waynewright, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. waynewright

    waynewright Guest

    Hi Folks. My 2001 Accord EX (4-cyl) is at 102,000 miles and throwing
    all of these codes...

    P0141 Secondary Heated Oxygen Sensor (Secondary HO2S) (Sensor 2)
    Heater Circuit Malfunction

    P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold

    P0700 Automatic Transmission Control System

    P1166 Air/Fuel Ratio (A/F) Sensor (Sensor 1) Heater System Electrical
    Problem

    P1298 Electric Load Detector (ELD) Circuit High Voltage

    P1768 ???

    I don't even know what the last one is. Any ideas for where a novice
    should start? I'm out of work until my new job starts in about a
    month, and PA state inspection just around the corner. Also, I was
    part of the Sept 2002 auto transmission recall covering 1.2 million
    Honda and Accura models, did need and got a new trans for free, but
    the extended warranty on the news trans expired at 100k miles incase
    that is relevant.
     
    waynewright, Mar 13, 2009
    #1
  2. waynewright

    Clete Guest


    I am no expert by any means but this sounds like the computer
    hiccupped. i would unhook battery to clear codes first.
     
    Clete, Mar 13, 2009
    #2
  3. waynewright

    E. Meyer Guest

    Secondary heated oxygen sensor (this is the one that is just past the cat)
    is the thing that triggers the Catalyst efficiency alarm. Address the
    oxygen sensor and the catalyst one will probably go away.

    The TCS code is unfortunately not related to the auto-trans recall. It
    means the transmission shift control computer has a problem. The recall had
    to do with internal clutches failing.

    As another poster suggested, this many codes all at once sounds like
    something scared the computer. Reset & see which one(s) come back then
    proceed accordingly. To reset, find the radio backup fuse (7.5 amp, usually
    in the under hood fuse box), and pull it for 10 seconds, or disconnect the
    battery neg cable for at least that long. If the radio asks for its code,
    you had it disconnected long enough.
     
    E. Meyer, Mar 13, 2009
    #3
  4. waynewright

    E. Meyer Guest

    Secondary heated oxygen sensor (this is the one that is just past the cat)
    is the thing that triggers the Catalyst efficiency alarm. Address the
    oxygen sensor and the catalyst one will probably go away.

    The TCS code is unfortunately not related to the auto-trans recall. It
    means the transmission shift control computer has a problem. The recall had
    to do with internal clutches failing.

    As another poster suggested, this many codes all at once sounds like
    something scared the computer. Reset & see which one(s) come back then
    proceed accordingly. To reset, find the radio backup fuse (7.5 amp, usually
    in the under hood fuse box), and pull it for 10 seconds, or disconnect the
    battery neg cable for at least that long. If the radio asks for its code,
    you had it disconnected long enough.
     
    E. Meyer, Mar 13, 2009
    #4
  5. waynewright

    waitneight Guest

    Thanks you two. The box I own to read the codes can reset them too,
    so I erased them all and the 'check engine' went off. I just drove
    for about 15 minutes and the engine light didn't come back on.
    However, I have a gut feeling that this one will come back since it
    was on for about a week...

    P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold

    By the way, what should I be doing about P0420 when it comes back as I
    except it shall.
     
    waitneight, Mar 13, 2009
    #5
  6. waynewright

    waitneight Guest

    Thanks you two. The box I own to read the codes can reset them too,
    so I erased them all and the 'check engine' went off. I just drove
    for about 15 minutes and the engine light didn't come back on.
    However, I have a gut feeling that this one will come back since it
    was on for about a week...

    P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold

    By the way, what should I be doing about P0420 when it comes back as I
    except it shall.
     
    waitneight, Mar 13, 2009
    #6
  7. waynewright

    E. Meyer Guest

    I would check the downstream O2 sensor first. If it checks out, then worry
    about the cat.
     
    E. Meyer, Mar 13, 2009
    #7
  8. waynewright

    E. Meyer Guest

    I would check the downstream O2 sensor first. If it checks out, then worry
    about the cat.
     
    E. Meyer, Mar 13, 2009
    #8
  9. waynewright

    ACAR Guest

    just curious - what kind of gas do you use?
     
    ACAR, Mar 14, 2009
    #9
  10. waynewright

    ACAR Guest

    just curious - what kind of gas do you use?
     
    ACAR, Mar 14, 2009
    #10
  11. waynewright

    JOEY M Guest

    change your 2 o2 sensors and pray 420 doesn't recode-----cat bi
    bucks........load sensor in fuse box under hood 2 philipps screws...
    good luc
     
    JOEY M, Mar 15, 2009
    #11
  12. waynewright

    johngdole Guest

    which engine? F23A1 or F23A4?

    If non-ULEV you should be able to get both upstream and downstream
    sensors for about $130 +shipping (www.rockauto.com). I'd recommend
    Bosch planar type sensor, these designs are more resistant to
    contamination than the cheap heated thimble that's in there already.
    I'd stay away from Densos, these have cost Toyota, Honda and many
    owners to needlessly replace catalytic converters.

    However, if you have the ULEV version, then the upstream sensor costs
    about $220! I think the OEM may be the NTK pump cell wide band sensor,
    which Bosch also reboxes, but not sure.

    If the sensor is not working, then your car's ECU may not go into
    closed-loop operation. So try to solve these first.

    http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/PlanarO2
     
    johngdole, Mar 16, 2009
    #12
  13. waynewright

    johngdole Guest

    which engine? F23A1 or F23A4?

    If non-ULEV you should be able to get both upstream and downstream
    sensors for about $130 +shipping (www.rockauto.com). I'd recommend
    Bosch planar type sensor, these designs are more resistant to
    contamination than the cheap heated thimble that's in there already.
    I'd stay away from Densos, these have cost Toyota, Honda and many
    owners to needlessly replace catalytic converters.

    However, if you have the ULEV version, then the upstream sensor costs
    about $220! I think the OEM may be the NTK pump cell wide band sensor,
    which Bosch also reboxes, but not sure.

    If the sensor is not working, then your car's ECU may not go into
    closed-loop operation. So try to solve these first.

    http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/PlanarO2
     
    johngdole, Mar 16, 2009
    #13
  14. waynewright

    jim beam Guest

    thank you to our corporate sponsors. now back with the program.

    bosch sensors may work in gm, frod, vw, etc., but they excite a lot of
    negative passion on honda groups because of poor performance and codes.
    they're not worth the cost saving.
     
    jim beam, Mar 16, 2009
    #14
  15. waynewright

    jim beam Guest

    thank you to our corporate sponsors. now back with the program.

    bosch sensors may work in gm, frod, vw, etc., but they excite a lot of
    negative passion on honda groups because of poor performance and codes.
    they're not worth the cost saving.
     
    jim beam, Mar 16, 2009
    #15
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.