2002 Honda CR-V Brake Calipers

Discussion in 'CR-V' started by jmaresca, Aug 5, 2006.

  1. jmaresca

    jmaresca Guest

    I recently had to replace a rear brake caliper because it locked and
    wore the pads and then proceded to cause the rotor to be destroyed.

    I am wondering if anyone else has had a problem with the brake calipers
    locking up like this. The people taking care of the repairs could not
    provide a real good explanation of why this would happen and actually
    seem mystified by the failure.


    I myself am a bit confused. I was in for services 2000 miles ago and
    had my state safety inspection performed. They have never been shy
    about trying to sell me repairs, so I imagine if it was something
    foreseeable they would have tried to push it then; however, the only
    problem they mentioned was that I would need new front brakes in the
    next 5000 to 7000 miles.

    So, I have a few questions:

    1) Has anyone else had mysterious/unexplained caliper failures that
    resulted in serious damage to their brakes?

    2) What causes can cause a caliper failure? How can you prevent these
    causes from resulting in failures?

    3) Is there anyway to detect a failure before it wears the pad out and
    starts grinding the rotor? (I never heard the wear indicators.)


    I thank everyone for their help and knowledge in advance. My car
    knowledge is limited to the basic tasks (i.e. changing oil, replacing
    fluids, etc.)

    -J
     
    jmaresca, Aug 5, 2006
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  2. jmaresca

    TeGGeR® Guest

    wrote in


    Oh yes. But it's neither unexplained nor mysterious. Rotor damage is
    ordinarily accompanied by a loud grinding noise, which must be ignored by
    the driver in order for damage to occur. Sometimes the rotor can be damaged
    by excessive heat, which warps the rotor and sometimes blues it up.




    Caliper failure normally consists of the piston binding in its bore. This
    is inevitable and will eventually happen to all cars. Failure to change the
    brake fluid annually will hasten it.

    When binding happens, the piston fails to retract immediately when you let
    off the brake pedal, so the pads are under pressure for an extended length
    of time (it's called "dragging"). The pads therefore wear much more
    rapidly.

    Binding pistons are _usually_ due to gum and/or corrosion on the piston.
    Binding is something a tech really should check for when doing the brakes,
    but in practice few do since it takes some time. You raise the car just off
    the ground, step on the foot brake a couple of times, spin each wheel by
    hand, and note any differences in turning effort. You can then back this up
    with a visual inspection of the brakes.

    There are services that may be performed to make certain the piston is as
    free as possible. They involve silicone grease, a blunt syringe, a set of
    Channel-Locks, and time.

    Other failures can occur when the moisture seal fails for the parking brake
    linkage inside the caliper. When it fails, moisture gets inside and
    interferes with the mechanism, which may fail or stick in the "on"
    position. I don't know if your car has a separate parking brake mechanism
    or not.

    Other problems that can lead to abnormal pad wear and damage but are not
    "failures" per se: Pads seized to mount bracket; slider pins seized in
    bores.




    Regular servicing, or at least inspection, at least twice per year if you
    live in an area with snow, and once per year in an area without.

    The wear indicators are only on the inner pads. The outer pads have
    nothing. Here is a hypothetical but quite possible scenario: Inner pad
    seizer on its bracket. Caliper piston seizing. Slider pins free. Outer pad
    does nearly 100% of work, wears out in jig time. Grinding moise evident.
    Rotor damaged.
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 6, 2006
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