2003 Honda Accord EX V6

Discussion in 'Accord' started by moffittheat, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. moffittheat

    moffittheat Guest

    I've read several of your comments...was hoping someone smart would
    have any solutions for this one:

    Problem: My brakes squeak

    Past history with brakes: My rotors had to be replaced after 2 months
    of owning the car. Dec '05 I had my back brake pads replaced since
    they had 20% wear left (BEFORE 30K miles!)...since then my brakes have
    been squeaking.

    History of fixing the problem: I've only dealt with this problem with
    the Honda Dealer in Richardson, TX (north dallas). I took the car in
    3 times to the dealer and they replaced the goop, etc...said the
    brakes were fine, but couldn't find the problem and never heard the
    squeak since it was so intermittent. The squeak got worse as time
    progressed and, like some other posts, was not only at 40mph, but
    started squeaking at higher mph's such as 60mph. I took it in again
    in Nov '06 and they said the problem was the front brakes...that the
    rotors were warped. They don't know why...said it was either from
    sitting in water (we were in a drought in the summer), the lug nuts
    being over torqued (only had work done by Honda, not Discount Tires,
    etc), or heat, but they couldn't find a heat source. So, they
    resurfaced them and buffed the pads. Squeaked on the way home. Took
    it back in and they replaced the pads and resurfaced the rotors
    again. Still squeak. I took it on a test drive with the shop foreman
    and he heard the squeak...at this point the honda tech guys are
    involved...so they replace my rotors. It was only a little squeak for
    a while, but now the weather was cold, and the squeak was different--
    squeak in the morning and other times, but not much and got worse.
    The last time I took it in was last Friday (today is Thursday) and
    they contored the pads (beveled the corners) so that any dust would
    fall down instead of getting trapped (that was my brother's idea and
    they didn't even think of it being dust). Didn't solve the problem.
    On Monday, President's Day, it was about 80 degrees and I was running
    errands all day (not the regular highway commute) and they were
    squeaking as at first and all day long.

    Any ideas? So frustrating...it's not a performance car and I didn't
    have ANY trouble with it my first 2 years of driving....not until they
    replaced my back brakes. I do travel about 15 miles through traffic
    on my way to and from work every day, but I don't "ride" the brakes.
    I am a light braker, but like another woman, I don't feel like I can
    slam on my brakes every 10 minutes in order to break up the glaze. I
    did try that, and my brakes would start squeaking after about 10-15
    minutes of braking hard. The next step is to ride with some district
    manager and have him hear the squeak. is there a solution to the
    brakes, or a way for Honda to give me a new car? :) My mileage now is
    about 44K.

    Thanks,
    Heather
     
    moffittheat, Feb 22, 2007
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  2. moffittheat

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:




    That won't "break up the glaze". Once glaze forms, the only way to get
    rid of it is to machine the rotors.

    Glaze surely isn't your problem here anyway.




    In all that foofaraw you related above, did the dealer ever bother to
    check for TSB 03-069?
    This TSB gives the specific part numbers for the exact brake pads to be
    used on your vehicle depending on your VIN number.

    TSB 00-088 gives guidelines for refinishing the brake rotors so you will
    have a proper surface for the pads to key into.

    There is a break-in procedure that should be followed whenever new pads
    are installed. I can give that separately if you like. Breaking them in
    like this can help prevent glaze and noise.

    Also, I notice your mileage is fairly low for your car's age. Rust can
    build up on little-used brakes, causing noise. Normally it wears off in
    the first few stops. However, if the car sits for several days at a
    time, especially in a humid/wet climate, the rust can build up to the
    point where it cannot be easily scraped off by the pads. This can lead
    to glaze, which _may_ (but not necessarily) cause noise.

    Finally, is the dealer making sure your anti-squeal shims are present
    and installed correctly, and are they using M77 or similar grease on
    those shims? Are they cleaning all the dust off the various surfaces and
    parts? Are they making sure the caliper pistons are moving freely and
    are retracting when you lift off the pedal?
     
    Tegger, Feb 22, 2007
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  3. moffittheat

    moffittheat Guest

    Thank you!
     
    moffittheat, Mar 1, 2007
    #3
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