2004 Accord LX V6 out side temperature gauge

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Ghori, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. Ghori

    Ghori Guest

    I have just bought Honda accord v6 LX and wondering that does it comes
    with the bulitin outside temperature gauge? as the dealer says it's
    only with EX models so can any one help me on that do i need to buy
    that seperatly or can I programm that and if yes then HOW ?? thanks
     
    Ghori, Jan 27, 2004
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  2. Ghori

    Pete Guest

    You could buy a digital thermometer with a remote sensor (on a cable that
    you run outside the cabin). Most auto stores or even large department
    stores carry them for around $10.

    Pete
     
    Pete, Jan 27, 2004
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  3. Ghori

    John Horner Guest


    I have the EX with the gauge and I would not spend money for that silly
    gauge. Honda's smoothing algorithm results in silly long time for the gauge
    to adjust to changed conditions. Sometimes 20 minutes or more of at speed
    driving is required before you get an accurate number.

    Almost useless. If you really want one, buy and install one of the many
    aftermarket jobs.

    John
     
    John Horner, Jan 27, 2004
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  4. Ghori

    Casey Guest

    John Horner said...
    I never really get an accurate one. It reads consistently high but
    it does give some relative idea of what the temperature is.
    He's not missing a lot. I wouldn't pay $10 for my "built-in"
    digital readout. I love my 2003 EX V6 Coupe, but the temp guage is
    not something to lust over.


    Casey
     
    Casey, Jan 29, 2004
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  5. Ghori

    TL Guest

    I agree on the value of the built-in temperature gauge. The one in my
    Passat works very well. I get a good read very quickly as I start to
    drive. The Honda takes forever as they have over compensated to avoid
    erratic fluctuations. The temp outside this morning was -15 degrees
    and my garage thermometer said about 5 degrees. The car temp gauge
    said 2 as I pulled away. 10-15 minutes later driving through town, the
    gauge had only gotten down to about -8. It took half the drive to
    start to move at all. In my view, there are two reasons to have a
    temperature gauge. One is you are cruising on a long trip and the
    gauge helps alert you to the fact that it is approaching freezing on
    the road. The other is you hop in the car and wonder how cold or hot
    it really is. This gauge works for the former, but not the latter.

    Cheers

    Tom
     
    TL, Jan 29, 2004
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  6. Ghori

    Paul Bielec Guest

    I'm surprised by all these comments because the gauge in my 2002 CR-V seems
    to be working just fine.
    I adjusted the offset when I first got the car (somebody provided the
    sequence) and it worked fine ever since.
     
    Paul Bielec, Jan 29, 2004
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  7. Ghori

    TL Guest

    How do you adjust the offset? I've just gotten used to it reading
    about 4 degrees too high. I didn't realize I could adjust that.

    Still doesn't solve the problem of how long it takes to register. You
    don't have that problem?
     
    TL, Jan 30, 2004
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  8. Ghori

    TomP Guest

    Here's the silly: Feb. '03 Service News

    Indicator Logic: ’03 Accord

    On ’03 Accord EXs with leather and ’03 Accord EX V6s, the outside temperature
    indicator keeps bogus readings to a minimum by delaying the
    refreshing of the display until you’re driving the vehicle faster than 19 mph,
    and by limiting the display change rate. Here’s how the logic works:
    When you turn the ignition switch to ON (II):
    • If the engine coolant temperature is less than 60°C (140°F), the display shows
    the current outside air temperature.
    • If the engine coolant temperature is greater than 60°C (140°F), the display
    shows the temperature that was stored in memory when
    you turned the switch to LOCK (0). The display doesn’t refresh from this
    reading until you drive the vehicle faster than 19 mph for at
    least 90 seconds. Once this criteria is met:
    • If the measured outside air temperature is greater than the displayed
    temperature, the displayed temperature rises 1°C per minute
    (about 1.8°F) until the two temperatures match.
    • If the measured outside air temperature is less than the displayed
    temperature, the displayed temperature drops to match the measured
    outside air temperature after about 20 seconds.

    If you need to calibrate the outside temperature indicator, refer to page
    22-240 of the 2003 Accord S/M.


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    TomP, Jan 31, 2004
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  9. Ghori

    John Horner Guest

    Nice theory, but in practice the Honda outside temp. gauge is much less
    usable than is the similar feature on our Oldsmobile minivan. Honda spent
    too much time theorizing about the issues and not enough time in real life
    use testing.

    John
     
    John Horner, Jan 31, 2004
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  10. Ghori

    TomP Guest

    Agreed; Honda over thought the operation of this meter.


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    TomP, Feb 1, 2004
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  11. Ghori

    TL Guest

    Understand. But it doesn't work this well in actual practice. In my
    earlier post, I described a recent drive where the temp was below zero
    and below that of the car when started (car was cold in a garage about
    10 degrees warmer than outside temperature). After 15 minutes of
    driving, most of which was over 19 miles an hour for more than 90
    seconds, the gauge had still not gotten to the actual temperature.

    The description of the rising temperature reading in 2 degree
    intervals every minute or two matches my experience when it is
    dropping -- as described above. The temp dropped in 2 degree
    increments but failed to reach the actual temperature (a difference of
    only 10 degrees) after the 15 minute drive.

    If what you state is the spec, then Honda needs to replace mine.
    However, listening to others here, I'm apparently not the only one.

    If the logic you outline worked correctly, I'd be happy. Unfortunately
    in my case at least, it does not.

    Thanks for posting the information. I don't have a service manual. Can
    you tell me how to calibrate my temperature gauge?

    Thanks
     
    TL, Feb 1, 2004
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  12. Ghori

    TL Guest

    A repeat request. Does anyone know this procedure? Thanks.
     
    TL, Feb 3, 2004
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  13. Ghori

    Paul Bielec Guest

    My reading always seem accurate. Usually, I always look at it in the morning
    and the morning TV show I watch shows the temperature in the corner of the
    screen. So I'm pretty sure that I would have noticed if the gauge was always
    showing the temperature the last time I drove.

    For adjusting, here it is (I haven't check in my manual, but some people say
    it is in, others that it is not):
    When the temperature is displayed (not trip A or B, just the odometer and
    temp) just hold the trip odometer Select/Reset button for 10 seconds and
    cycle through the -3,-2, 1, 0 1, 2, 3 settings(one second interval). When
    you reach the desired value release the knob.
     
    Paul Bielec, Feb 3, 2004
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  14. Ghori

    Paul Bielec Guest

    This worked for my 2002 CR-V (Canadian model, deg C):
    For adjusting, here it is (I haven't check in my manual, but some people say
    it is in, others that it is not):
    When the temperature is displayed (not trip A or B, just the odometer and
    temp) just hold the trip odometer Select/Reset button for 10 seconds and
    cycle through the -3,-2, 1, 0 1, 2, 3 settings(one second interval). When
    you reach the desired value release the knob.
     
    Paul Bielec, Feb 3, 2004
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  15. Ghori

    AMG Guest

    Are you saying CRV's have an outside temp gauge? I didn't think they
    did....
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    AMG, Feb 3, 2004
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  16. Ghori

    TL Guest

    Thanks very much. I'll give it a try. I don't find this anywhere in
    the manual.
     
    TL, Feb 3, 2004
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  17. Ghori

    Paul Bielec Guest

    Are you saying CRV's have an outside temp gauge? I didn't think they
    I've heard somewhere that the US models don't have the outside temperature
    gauges.
    But the 2nd gen Canadian models do. My 2002 EX does. On the other hand, on
    the Canadian Honda website, it is not listed in the CR-V specifications,
    although it is for the Accord.
     
    Paul Bielec, Feb 3, 2004
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  18. Ghori

    TL Guest

    I can confirm that this procedure works for the 03 Accord as well. The
    only difference is that there is no setting where the odometer and
    temp are displayed. Seems odd, but the only combinations are odometer
    & trip A, temp & trip A, and temp & trip B. I found putting it on temp
    & trip A worked (I'd bet temp & trip B works as well ... I think the
    point is that the temp has to be showing).

    Thank for this information. Makes a big difference being able to
    calibrate the gauge.

    Tom
     
    TL, Feb 3, 2004
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  19. Ghori

    AMG Guest

    Nope. I ran outside in the snow to double check '04 (USA) CRV. Nada....
    Wahhhhh!!!!!

    :-[
     
    AMG, Feb 3, 2004
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  20. Ghori

    Ghori Guest


    Hi,

    Thanks very much pete after reviewing all the information about the
    gauge I guess i woulf by from the market not from honda thanks again
    for all of you guys on this :)
     
    Ghori, Feb 17, 2004
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