2004 Accord which to buy?, 4 cy or the V6

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Traction control is an excellent feature for snow and wet weather driving.
I would consider it a must-have if living in the snow belt.

John

 

You are wasting your money. Unless an engine has compression, timing and
fuel curves which require the additional knock resistance of higher octane
fuels there is no advantage to using them. Your Accord is set up for
regular fuel. The Acura TSX requires premium fuel because it's engine runs
higher compression than does the same basic motor in an Accord.

It is your money to do with as you please, but you are simply throwing it
away.

John

 

You are wasting your money. Unless an engine has compression, timing and
fuel curves which require the additional knock resistance of higher octane
fuels there is no advantage to using them. Your Accord is set up for
regular fuel. The Acura TSX requires premium fuel because it's engine runs
higher compression than does the same basic motor in an Accord.[/QUOTE]

The 4 cylinder, that is correct.

But he's fooled himself; nothing you say will ever wrench him away from
that feeling, undefined as it may be, that somehow he's getting
something "more" or "better" for the higher price.

I need to dump my personal ethics and start selling something stupid
that people are happy to spend money on--and then go on the theory that
if it costs more, it must be worth more. Therefore I can charge a bunch
for it, and get those suckers.

I'll put my ads up under the premium button on the gas pumps.

 

Sorry, but the Accord is no match for the overall greatness of the new TL.

As for resale value of the TSX, don't worry. Any small Acura sedan holds
its value very well. Have fun finding a 4-drs Integra GS-R at a great
price.

 

Nonsense. Not needed at all on FWD cars.

 

Your loss.

Oh, I'm scared!

Nonsense.

 

You really do not know what you are talking about.

John

 

You need to check your facts before jumping on people like that. The V6
has been mentioned by a Honda engineeer as having 10bhp & 10lb/ft extra on
premium fuel - not Honda's official line AFAIK but check
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/2002-08-01-accord_x.htm

He has a V6.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong, absolutely wrong.

I had a 2000 EX V6 without traction control and now have a 2003 EX V6
with traction control and the new one is amazing in snow. Under
circumstances where the 2000 exhibited lots of hard-to-control
wheelspin, the 2003 goes as if there isn't any snow at all.

 

No kidding. On the ride home from the dealership, I took a bumpy road back
to my house that I didn't pass on one of my test drives. It was so bumpy I
thought I was going to get sick. Eventually though I got used to it. I
like the road feel.

When I went back to my Camry before selling it, it felt like I was just
"floating"....

-Chris

 

The thing you have to ask yourself is do you need the extra power of the
V6? Are you willing to pay the penalty in fuel economy, especially in
traffic? If the answer is yes, then you should buy the V6. Personally I
dislike V type engines and much prefer an inline 6 cyl (a la Supra and
Skyline) but since no Japanese cars are sent over with inline 6
cylinders anymore, we are stuck with the V6. As for limited slip on a
FWD vehicle in the snow. Uh, I hope it also comes with traction control.
Nothing like spinning both front wheels in the snow to kill all
directional stability. I would suggest trying both the 4 cyl and 6 cyl
for a day each. I did and opted for a 4 cylinder Accord 2 door. Although
the V6 has a bit more power, it did not handle as tight and I found that
in all but tight passing situations (where a prudent driver would not
normally pass anyway) I really did not need the extra punch of the six.
I am satisfied with a 0 - 60 in the 9 second range and fuel economy of
over 30 mpg in mixed city and highway driving. I'll admit that a 2 dr
Accord V6 is a real performer and a lot of fun to drive, but for a daily
driver and especially for long trips, the 4 cyl is a much more practical
option. My Accord has a stiffer then normal set of struts and shocks and
it is not bad at all on a trip. You get used to it and after a while,
cars with a non sports type suspension feel like riding in an ocean liner.

 

\> >Nonsense. Not needed at all on FWD cars.

I have to agree. My 2003 EX V6, with the traction control turned off, is
virtually undriveable in slippery conditions. There's just too much torque,
you end up with massive wheelspin at low speeds.

 

You get used to a stiff ride, but if you keep the car a while and get
a little older, you may get really tired of it. I've had my I30t for
92,000 miles and I am truly sick of the suspension harshness. (The
semi-performance struts and tires I installed didn't help any of
course.) My next car won't be an ocean liner like the ES330, but it
will be a lot closer to a normal ride.

And having had a limited slip differential for that time, I can say
that it is a big step up from a standard one, even though it is no
match for traction control. It's a huge plus in the rain. If you
spin both tires in the snow with it (to the point of losing
directional stability), you really have no regard for winter driving
and should stay home.

JM