2005 Civic Steering weirdness

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Jim, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. Jim

    Jim Guest

    Hi,

    I have a 2005 Civic LX 5 spd. I've found that the car tends to drift
    from side ot side at highway speeds and has become very tedious to
    drive. Its very sensitive to wind gusts and takes a lot of attention to
    keep straight. I just can't settle into a line with it. I've also
    noticed a high degree of torque steer under moderate acceleration
    (which is all thats possible at 65mph anyway :) Dealer claims all is
    'up to spec' but this is the 4th civic I've owned and by far the least
    stable. I'd hate to drive it for more than a couple of hours. Does
    this match anyone elses experience with their 2005 civic?

    Jim
     
    Jim, Apr 19, 2005
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  2. Jim

    Dan Beaton Guest


    Jim,
    Check your tire pressure and make sure it is set to the correct cold
    pressure. If the dealer failed to bring the pressure down from the
    high pressure used for shipping, the behavior you describe would be
    the result.
    Dan

    (This account is not used for email.)
     
    Dan Beaton, Apr 19, 2005
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  3. Jim

    Jim Guest

    Dan,

    Thanks. I assumed the dealership would have checked that during the 2
    service appointments I had for this problem. The pressure was actually
    3-5 lbs low so I brought it up to 30lb cold. It didn't solve the
    problem but the ride is somewhat better.

    Thanks...
    Jim
     
    Jim, Apr 19, 2005
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  4. Jim

    Pars Guest

    The 05 Civics is not going to be as sure footed as the previous model,
    simply because of the suspension design.

    Lower profile tires on 7' inch rims will improve highway stability (but be
    careful of those ultra performance tires that are sticky enough to pull the
    car from it's line...).

    Pars
     
    Pars, Apr 20, 2005
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  5. Jim

    Lanning Guest

    I investigated the same complaint ('02 Civic Si) in this newsgroup, and by
    asking the dealer to do an alignment (not warranty work). The dealer
    measured and said it wasn't needed. It has got a little better, or I have
    become conditioned to it, or the tires have "worn-in". It could be an issue
    caused by the "fly by wire" (electrical, believe it or not) steering of my
    particular model, or Honda engineers need to learn more about front
    suspension that doesn't use the double wishbone design. See below links for
    info. Possibly a little toe-in or positive caster would solve the issue. I
    seldom think of it anymore.

    http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/longtech.htm
    http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/
    http://www.advancedracing.com/grmart1.html



    | Hi,
    |
    | I have a 2005 Civic LX 5 spd. I've found that the car tends to drift
    | from side ot side at highway speeds and has become very tedious to
    | drive. Its very sensitive to wind gusts and takes a lot of attention to
    | keep straight. I just can't settle into a line with it. I've also
    | noticed a high degree of torque steer under moderate acceleration
    | (which is all thats possible at 65mph anyway :) Dealer claims all is
    | 'up to spec' but this is the 4th civic I've owned and by far the least
    | stable. I'd hate to drive it for more than a couple of hours. Does
    | this match anyone elses experience with their 2005 civic?
    |
    | Jim
    |
     
    Lanning, Apr 22, 2005
    #5
  6. Jim

    art Guest

    Ditto....I had the same problem with my 2003 Civic Si. The electrical power
    steering is quite tight and requires more effort to keep it straight. No
    steering with one finger, that's for sure. I have gotten used to it though,
    and I kind of enjoy the tightness of the steering compared to my daughter's
    CRV.
     
    art, Apr 23, 2005
    #6
  7. Jim

    dold Guest

    Brought it up to 30?
    What is the recommended pressure on the door sticker?

    My 2003 Civic Hybrid has a recommendation of 30. I run 38. It handles
    much better on the windy roads around here. I also have the electric
    steering, but I don't think it is too difficult to use, and I can drive
    with no hands on the wheel for several hundred yards at freeway speeds.

    I think that tires at 25psi would be pretty mushy, and wander around due to
    excessive sidewall flex.
     
    dold, Apr 23, 2005
    #7
  8. Jim

    Lanning Guest

    The Acura RSX (fundamentally the same as the Si) steering is of even higher
    effort.

    | Ditto....I had the same problem with my 2003 Civic Si. The electrical
    power
    | steering is quite tight and requires more effort to keep it straight. No
    | steering with one finger, that's for sure. I have gotten used to it
    though,
    | and I kind of enjoy the tightness of the steering compared to my
    daughter's
    | CRV.
    |
    | | > I investigated the same complaint ('02 Civic Si) in this newsgroup, and
    by
    | > asking the dealer to do an alignment (not warranty work). The dealer
    | > measured and said it wasn't needed. It has got a little better, or I
    have
    | > become conditioned to it, or the tires have "worn-in". It could be an
    | issue
    | > caused by the "fly by wire" (electrical, believe it or not) steering of
    my
    | > particular model, or Honda engineers need to learn more about front
    | > suspension that doesn't use the double wishbone design. See below links
    | for
    | > info. Possibly a little toe-in or positive caster would solve the issue.
    I
    | > seldom think of it anymore.
    | >
    | > http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/longtech.htm
    | > http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/
    | > http://www.advancedracing.com/grmart1.html
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | > | > | Hi,
    | > |
    | > | I have a 2005 Civic LX 5 spd. I've found that the car tends to drift
    | > | from side ot side at highway speeds and has become very tedious to
    | > | drive. Its very sensitive to wind gusts and takes a lot of attention
    to
    | > | keep straight. I just can't settle into a line with it. I've also
    | > | noticed a high degree of torque steer under moderate acceleration
    | > | (which is all thats possible at 65mph anyway :) Dealer claims all is
    | > | 'up to spec' but this is the 4th civic I've owned and by far the least
    | > | stable. I'd hate to drive it for more than a couple of hours. Does
    | > | this match anyone elses experience with their 2005 civic?
    | > |
    | > | Jim
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Lanning, Apr 24, 2005
    #8
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