2005 Honda Accord EX 4cyl or Acura TSX?? Help please.

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Cowboy Joe, Apr 18, 2005.

  1. Cowboy Joe

    Cowboy Joe Guest

    Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
    aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
    Acura TSX.

    I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
    Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
    for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
    a very good price for those TSX's.

    My question to all who could help would be what are the major
    differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
    than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
    read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
    absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
    it the "almost perfect" car.

    But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
    has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.

    How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
    Is there a big difference?

    Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
    better! Thanks!
     
    Cowboy Joe, Apr 18, 2005
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  2. Cowboy Joe

    JXStern Guest

    I went with the Accord, mostly because it was $120/month cheaper to
    lease. The Accord is a wonderful car, but it is a tad large for me
    and I keep looking back at the TSX, with a few more horses, and
    sighing.

    OTOH I would imagine the TSX has a somewhat firmer, harsher ride, and
    the Accord is already rather harsher on the freeway than one would
    hope. Maybe I should have test-driven a Camry.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Apr 19, 2005
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  3. Cowboy Joe

    Neal Guest

    If you're leaning towards the Accord, go for the Hybrid.
     
    Neal, Apr 19, 2005
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  4. I suggest you play with the navigation system before you decide that you
    don't want it.



     
    Joshua J. Belsky, Apr 20, 2005
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  5. Cowboy Joe

    Steve Guest

    Advantages of each:

    Honda Accord
    -larger
    -uses regular gas
    -less expensive

    Acura TSX
    -a little more powerful engine
    -stability control
    -less frequent oil changes


    Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are different
    cars and drive differently.
     
    Steve, Apr 20, 2005
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  6. Cowboy Joe

    halo2 guy Guest

    out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 20, 2005
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  7. Cowboy Joe

    Neal Hudson Guest

    Change the oil every 3 months or 3000 mi on any car. Oil is cheap.
    Neal
     
    Neal Hudson, Apr 20, 2005
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  8. Cowboy Joe

    halo2 guy Guest

    It may be but Honda is going 10k between changes....actually they are going
    20k, alternating between the filter and oil change every 10 k....very weird.
     
    halo2 guy, Apr 20, 2005
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  9. Cowboy Joe

    Sabby Guest

    As the proud owner of an 04 TSX (and former owner of an Accord), I would
    ask you a question before answering..

    What is more important to you- precise handling (read as sports sedan), or a
    comfortable ride?

    If you responded with precise Handling- Go for the TSX. It is a firmer ride
    than you will get with the Accord. Handling is much better also. Stronger
    engine, better equipment level. The TSX is also slightly smaller- not really
    noticable though. Built in Japan too- unlike the American built Accord.
    With just under 10,000 miles on my TSX, I still love getting into it and
    driving it like I stole it (of course, I only do this on sanctioned tracks
    <wink>)!!! The largest drawback to the TSX is the requirement for Super
    Unleaded gasoline.

    I am not putting the Accord down, it is an extremely well built vehicle. I
    was cross shopping a V6 when I bought the TSX.

    Keep this in mind as well, The TSX is actually the known as the Accord in
    Europe and Asia (the US Accord is known as the Legend) This is because the
    US and Canada are the only countries where you can purchase an Acura branded
    vehicle.

    I fyou want to find out more about the TSX, please visit the following
    website.. you will find a lot of info by TSX owners about their cars..

    http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/index.php


    Whatever vehicle you end up with.. Enjoy it!!
     
    Sabby, Apr 20, 2005
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  10. Cowboy Joe

    Steve Guest

    When car shopping last month, I was told by the Acura saleman, that you had
    to change the oil for the TSX, every 10,000 miles. (!)

    I own a 94 Honda Accord I-4 (4 cyl) , and if I recall, Honda said I only
    have to change the oil (on my VTEC engine) every 6,000 miles (but I usually
    do it more frequently).

    (I'm simplifying of course, leaving out the # of months)

    I agree it seems every 3,000 miles is the general rule for cars in general.
     
    Steve, Apr 21, 2005
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  11. (Trying to avoid the undying "oil change frequency" thread) Go for it - to
    each their own. This has become a very controversial issue, with
    recommendations from reputable sources running the gamut of 3K to 15K miles.
    I follow the owner's manual for each vehicle, myself, figuring they know
    better than I do.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 21, 2005
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  12. Ah, but changing the oil is simply cheap insurance.

    If the manual says 6000 miles, and you do it at 3000 miles, you're not
    harming the car.

    What's more worrisome is when they specify an oil change interval based
    on the marketing department's desire to show a car that's cheaper to
    maintain, rather than an engineering recommendation.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Apr 21, 2005
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    TWW Guest

    5k difference? I priced an 05 Accord EX with Leather at our local dealer --
    26k firm. Made my 01 Prelude look good for a long time.
     
    TWW, Apr 22, 2005
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  14. Actually, Hondas are the only make I know of where oil changes take their
    toll on the engine... or more specifically, the oil drain pan threads. The
    ones I've worked on seem to gradually consume the threads with each change,
    eventually requiring a new pan or oversized drain bolt.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 22, 2005
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  15. Cowboy Joe

    JXStern Guest

    A little better, maybe, due to lower profile tires and suspension
    tuning, but the Accord is pretty good too y'know, and they are still
    pretty much clones of each other.
    My four-banger Accord has a J* VIN, which means made in Japan.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Apr 23, 2005
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    Nightdude Guest

    That's only true if you don't change the oil drain plug washer. My Acura has
    close to 200,000 kms and not a leak from drain plug.

    or if you really really overtighten the bolt, which some places like Jiffy
    Lube might do because of liablity issues with having the bolt come off and
    seize the engine when all the oil runs out.
     
    Nightdude, Apr 25, 2005
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  17. I have had the displeasure of having a drain bolt strip out on my daughter's
    '93 Accord at about the 180K mile mark. I had done the last several oil
    changes, and before that the previous owners took it to Midas. But each time
    I removed the bolt I noticed a few shavings in the threads (I used a new
    genuine Honda washer and filter every time - this is not the place to be
    cheap). Eventually the wear was too great and the threads just didn't hold.

    I've done my own oil changes for 30 years, and Hondas are the only ones I've
    seen do that (two out of about a dozen cars). Our 20 year old Volvo has 234K
    miles now and is on the original drain plug. Our local NAPA has single and
    double oversize drain plugs for Hondas, so the problem must be fairly
    common. But Googling "stripped oil drain plug" with various makes turns up
    no big spike in hits for Honda over other brands, so my experience may be a
    fluke.

    BTW, I haven't found an official torque for the Accord drain plug. Haynes is
    no help ("tight enough but not too tight" or something like that) so I do it
    by feel - when the plateau in the resistance changes to a sharp increase, I
    figure the crush is done.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 25, 2005
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  18. http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/5-4.pdf

    33 lb-ft.
     
    Steve Bigelow, Apr 25, 2005
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  19. Thanks!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 25, 2005
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  20. Cowboy Joe

    kbstreet Guest

    I have an '04 TL that I traded up from an '04 Accord V6 LX. For the price
    and performance, I would go for the Accord V6 EX. It has a bigger engine,
    V6-240 hp vs. I4-200hp. I prefer the outside looks of the Accord better
    than the TSX. The back end of the TSX looks too boxy like a Civic. Around
    Chicago, you can find new '05 Accord EX V6's w/ NAVI for around or under
    invoice. That would put the price around the same as a TSX w/o NAVI. I
    would never buy a car again w/o NAVI. The TL's NAVI, which the Accord's is
    very similar too, is one of the best I have seen.
     
    kbstreet, Apr 27, 2005
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