2006 Accord won't start mystery

Discussion in 'Accord' started by harry, May 20, 2006.

  1. harry

    harry Guest

    Got my 06 Accord V6 EX on March-14, it refused to start right after we drove
    25miles back from dealer lot.

    Someone recommended the "flood" way described in manual, and it worked.

    At end of April, the car did the same thing again. We tried the same
    solution but it did not work that time. So, the less than two months new
    car was towed to a local Honda dealer. The dealer could not find any
    problem except reported that it seems flooded--too much gas on ignition. It
    seems that my flood way did make the ignition wet and it left the only sign
    of not starting. Computer scan can not find anything wrong!

    Still a mystery, why my 06 refused to start occasionally. Yes, it is under
    warranty but I lost confidence on this 06. I will not drive it more than
    20miles from home in case it needs towing again.

    The tow truck guy said he had seen "many" new Accord having similar
    symptons. The dealer asked if I drove only a few feet (say from garage to
    driveway) because he saw the same problem on some cars and they all pointed
    to that common possible reason. Well, my case is definitely different. One
    tome drove 3 miles non-stop, the second time drove 7 to 8 miles.
    No sign of failure before it happened, engine ran smoothly and powerful. No
    idea and never expected it will refuse to start while it was running great
    just few minutes/one hour ago...

    Any idea, anyone experienced similar problem here?
     
    harry, May 20, 2006
    #1
  2. harry

    Art Guest

    I guess that is how they get to ultra low emissions. :)
     
    Art, May 20, 2006
    #2
  3. It also goes to show that having an old beater can beat having a brand
    new vehicle...

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, May 20, 2006
    #3
  4. harry

    tww Guest

    Heard that answer before -- when electronic fuel injection and ignition
    started to make its appearance.
     
    tww, May 20, 2006
    #4
  5. Got my 06 Accord V6 EX on March-14, it refused to start right after we drove
    25miles back from dealer lot.

    Someone recommended the "flood" way described in manual, and it worked.

    At end of April, the car did the same thing again. We tried the same
    solution but it did not work that time. So, the less than two months new
    car was towed to a local Honda dealer. The dealer could not find any
    problem except reported that it seems flooded--too much gas on ignition. It
    seems that my flood way did make the ignition wet and it left the only sign
    of not starting. Computer scan can not find anything wrong!

    Still a mystery, why my 06 refused to start occasionally. Yes, it is under
    warranty but I lost confidence on this 06. I will not drive it more than
    20miles from home in case it needs towing again.

    The tow truck guy said he had seen "many" new Accord having similar
    symptons. The dealer asked if I drove only a few feet (say from garage to
    driveway) because he saw the same problem on some cars and they all pointed
    to that common possible reason. Well, my case is definitely different. One
    tome drove 3 miles non-stop, the second time drove 7 to 8 miles.
    No sign of failure before it happened, engine ran smoothly and powerful. No
    idea and never expected it will refuse to start while it was running great
    just few minutes/one hour ago...

    Any idea, anyone experienced similar problem here?

    It appears to me to be a fuel flow problem or a problem related to those
    electrical items that have an effect upon the fuel flow. Since the vehicle
    is under warranty, take it back to the dealer and request that they have a
    mechanic check every item related to fuel flow. Ask for a full report such
    as the condition of the fuel pump, main relay , injectors, wiring, fuel
    pressure.
    You may want to check this site to see if there were similar issues with
    your car and the 2005 6 cyld. Accord:
    http://www.alldata.com
    Ask the service manager to determine if there are any TSBs (technical
    service bulletins) related to this issue in your car and the 2005 6 cyld.
    Accord.
    Can someone else suggest another site that has TSBs or at least the title
    of TSBs.
    Jason
     
    Jason Johnson, May 20, 2006
    #5
  6. harry

    G-Man Guest

    Sounds like a fuel injector is leaking. Had this problem on my Rodeo years
    ago. Once the injector was replaced, all was well for years.

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, May 20, 2006
    #6
  7. -------------------------------

    Wrong symptoms.

    The OP said it was happening after sitting only a few minutes. A leaky
    injector will usually show up after the vehicle sits for several hours.
    That's why it most often manifests on a Monday morning. It can take a
    whole weekend to drain the fuel rail pressure one drop at a time. Engine
    ends up totally flooded and owner has no idea to check the owner's
    manual for the (temporary) fix.

    Unless it's really sticking wide open, which could explain the problem
    happening in just a few minutes.

    I dunno. 'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', May 20, 2006
    #7
  8. harry

    John Horner Guest

    Check out the lemon law criteria in your state. After a certain number
    of repeated attempts to repair the same problem you may be entitle to a
    replacement vehicle or your money back.

    John
     
    John Horner, May 23, 2006
    #8
  9. Check out the lemon law criteria in your state. After a certain number
    of repeated attempts to repair the same problem you may be entitle to a
    replacement vehicle or your money back.

    John

    John,
    Excellent post. The OP should visit this site:
    This is related to the lemon law in California and the laws in other
    states should be about the same:
    www.dca.ca.gov/acp
     
    Jason Johnson, May 23, 2006
    #9
  10. harry

    harry Guest

    I purchased the car in Maryland but I live in Virginia. Which state's law
    applies?
     
    harry, May 23, 2006
    #10
  11. I purchased the car in Maryland but I live in Virginia. Which state's law
    applies?

    I suggest that you contact the service manager and manager (or owenr) of
    the Honda dealership and tell him that you are considering going to the
    news media and filing a lemon law lawsuit if they refuse to solve the
    problem. For example, they should replace the injectors under the warranty
    program. If that does not solve the problem, they should replace the main
    relay. If that does not solve the problem--every item (elec. and mechan.)
    related to the fuel flow system should be replaced. In addition, the
    ignition should be replaced since ignition system problems are common in
    relation to Honda vehicles. I don't understand why they have not already
    done these things.

    In regard to your question, my guess would be Maryland and the original
    dealer that sold you the car would also be listed in your claim. You may
    also want to do a carfax report to find out if you really are the original
    owner. For example, google Maryland Lemon Law and Virginia Lemon Law.
    Also googel carfax--it's probably carfax.com

    Jason
     
    Jason Johnson, May 23, 2006
    #11
  12. wherever the transaction of goods for consideration (money) took place.
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, May 23, 2006
    #12
  13. harry

    Art Guest

    Actually you need to read the state law. And if it is vague you will need
    to check prior case law. It is possible that a particular state law was
    drafted to protect buyers of vehicles of a particular age no matter where
    they were bought. Read the statute.
     
    Art, May 25, 2006
    #13
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