2007 Accord - Cruise Control

Discussion in 'Accord' started by no name, Nov 11, 2006.

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    jim beam Guest

    what does it say in the honda manual?
     
    jim beam, Nov 14, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    what does it say in the honda manual?
     
    jim beam, Nov 14, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    Well, I just pulled out the owner's manual for my '06 Acura TSX. The
    only restrictions for the first 600 miles are to avoid full throttle
    acceleration, avoid agressive acceleration, avoid panic stop braking and
    to leave the factory motor oil in the motor until the first oil change
    interval.

    The old procedures for running in rings, cams and the like do not seem
    to apply to modern Honda products. I'm pretty sure Honda knows what
    they are doing in this regard.

    John
     
    John Horner, Nov 14, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    Well, I just pulled out the owner's manual for my '06 Acura TSX. The
    only restrictions for the first 600 miles are to avoid full throttle
    acceleration, avoid agressive acceleration, avoid panic stop braking and
    to leave the factory motor oil in the motor until the first oil change
    interval.

    The old procedures for running in rings, cams and the like do not seem
    to apply to modern Honda products. I'm pretty sure Honda knows what
    they are doing in this regard.

    John
     
    John Horner, Nov 14, 2006
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
    better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
    extended warranties.
     
    AZ Nomad, Nov 15, 2006
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    Sure. Can't have all their engines lasting 300K miles. It's much
    better for honda if their engines only last through the period of their
    extended warranties.
     
    AZ Nomad, Nov 15, 2006
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    MishaA Guest

    :lol: :thumbsup: +1
     
    MishaA, Nov 15, 2006
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    JXStern Guest

    Yeah, I heard it forty years ago for GM iron engines, except they
    didnt even HAVE cruise control back then, but you were supposed to
    vary your speed a lot.

    Does not seem to be an issue for current Honda alumino-silicate engine
    technology. No 500 mile break-in oil, either. Don't even have to
    crank the engine manually to start them anymore, either.

    Still have to parallel-park them yourself, but how much longer can
    that go on?!

    J.
     
    JXStern, Nov 15, 2006
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    JXStern Guest

    Yeah, I heard it forty years ago for GM iron engines, except they
    didnt even HAVE cruise control back then, but you were supposed to
    vary your speed a lot.

    Does not seem to be an issue for current Honda alumino-silicate engine
    technology. No 500 mile break-in oil, either. Don't even have to
    crank the engine manually to start them anymore, either.

    Still have to parallel-park them yourself, but how much longer can
    that go on?!

    J.
     
    JXStern, Nov 15, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    dude, with respect, time to move on. the improvements in precision,
    materials and lubricants since the 50's and the detroit hunk-o-junk's
    hay day render the old run-in procedure obsolete.

    besides, have you ever worked on diesels? if so, you'll know that the
    engine is controlled by the injection governor, not the pedal under the
    drivers foot - it gives full throttle/injection with absolutely zero
    regard to news groups. with that new knowledge and fear of blatant
    abuse, can we suddenly expect the nation's diesel engine lifespans to
    dramatically reduce?
     
    jim beam, Nov 15, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    dude, with respect, time to move on. the improvements in precision,
    materials and lubricants since the 50's and the detroit hunk-o-junk's
    hay day render the old run-in procedure obsolete.

    besides, have you ever worked on diesels? if so, you'll know that the
    engine is controlled by the injection governor, not the pedal under the
    drivers foot - it gives full throttle/injection with absolutely zero
    regard to news groups. with that new knowledge and fear of blatant
    abuse, can we suddenly expect the nation's diesel engine lifespans to
    dramatically reduce?
     
    jim beam, Nov 15, 2006
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    MishaA Guest

    Not sure how this relates to the original topic, but if you try to
    re-phrase for non-native English speaker it might help. And, BTW, pedal
    under drivers foot still retains some control, even on diesels. They do
    not drive by themselves just yet.:wink:
     
    MishaA, Nov 15, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    MishaA wrote:
    you've not worked on diesels then kiddo. the foot tells the governor
    what the driver wants but the governor does everything from there. with
    a gasoline engine, give it full pedal, you get full gas. with diesel,
    full pedal can give you zero injection, 30% pedal can give you full
    injection - it depends on load and revs, as determined by the governor,
    not the driver.
     
    jim beam, Nov 15, 2006
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    MishaA Guest

    Can you translate kiddo into plain english for me, please? I have a
    version, I just want to make sure it is correct.

    As for diesels, I do own one since 1995, and I'm pretty familiar with
    its behaivior. Despite of the governor, the speed is controlled by
    driver, and this cannot be done any other way, at least while we have
    drivers driving cars.

    And you did not answer what all this has to do with the original
    poster's question yet. Could you please?
     
    MishaA, Nov 15, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    learn to differentiate between "speed" and "amount of diesel injected".
     
    jim beam, Nov 15, 2006
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    Actually, with a gasoline engine, give it full pedal and you give it full
    air. The air flow then controls the fuel added.
     
    AZ Nomad, Nov 15, 2006
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  17. About 10 years. That's when the current Lexus gee-whiz parallel parking
    technology will move its way down to the base Civic.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 15, 2006
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  18. About 10 years. That's when the current Lexus gee-whiz parallel parking
    technology will move its way down to the base Civic.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 15, 2006
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    MishaA Guest

    Huh? How about the difference between apples and oranges? Or leaves and
    cooking? Or any number of other random meaningless differences?

    To answer your question (what I think you REALLY meant) in easy to
    understand words, the driver is controlling engine’s rotational speed,
    and the governor is adjusting the amount of fuel so the speed matches
    what is set by the driver no matter what engine load is (of course
    within the boundaries of engine’s power, if you want to ask this next).
    This is leaving out a lot of details and variations that are not
    relevant to basic understanding of how this thing works. I believe I
    learnt this like 30 years ago in my University course on diesels, and
    don’t need to re-learn it. Don’t see how it helps OP case, though.

    Frankly, I’m puzzled to see how you keep ignoring my questions and keep
    mounting questions and statements that have no relation whatsoever to
    the original case. Is it your general style of conversation?
     
    MishaA, Nov 15, 2006
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    John Horner Guest

    You must be joking, right? A good deal of Honda's business success
    today is built upon their reputation for robust long lasting vehicles.

    John
     
    John Horner, Nov 15, 2006
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