2008 Honda Civic Ex Maintenance Schedule

Now the question to me is whether a 2008 Maintenance Minder
would recommend significantly different mileages between oil
changes for city driving vs. highway driving.

What again are the inputs to the "oil change reminder" on
your 2001?

 

Yes.

 

Let me interject something here. I have a 2008 Accord and its the same
situation about the missing maintainance schedule at least what you are
looking for. I totally understand your arguement here. My dealer had to give
me a paper to show me aprox what to do at certain mileage for this reason
after explaining a little about the maint minder. Basically (under normal
driving) what I understand is that at 5000 mi you do the oil change. At
10000 mi you have the tires rotated, oil and filter and a few other things
get inspected. Then 5000 mi more and another oil change, then 5000 mi more
to make a total of 20000 mi on the car you get an oil change, tire rotation,
air filter change, adjust the parking and rear brakes, battery terminals
cleaned and a few other inspections on exhaust etc etc.

5000 mi service=$30.00
10000 mi service=$110.00
20000 mi service=$200.00

*based on my local area.

 

Not sure what you mean.

 

The most recent API rating for oils for gasoline engines is SM.
http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/categories/upload/EngineOilGuide2006.pdf

 

Your dealer doesn't want you to follow the MM, because he makes less
money than if you follow a paper time/miles schedule.

You got suckered.

 

Cool..I thought you had other info bec..well..doesn't matter what I thought.

Oh..sorry..I guess I forgot to say that in my example, its fresh oil on a
brand new car.

In other words, if I have a brand new car and keep it in a garage and start
in once every 2 weeks and roll it around the neighborhood once or twice and
then park it again, for a year....like maybe 100 miles max in a year, if
even.

I wonder if its okay for synthetic oil and if it would still, in reality,
require replacement even if a MM says so.

Is the damn stuff *really* dirty/contaminated/degraded to the point of
warranting replacement, even in this extreme example?

See what I mean?

Because if you do, then you could fairly quickly see that there may be times
when the MM is incorrect.

Heh...didn't worry about how long it would last like you worry about it
now...just 822 miles to go, boyee!

Peace,
Polfus

 

Understood, and agreed.

I said in another reply, but will again here, for the sake of debate:

If I get a brand new car with fresh oil, park it for a year and don't drive
it other than to start it and roll it around the neighborhood, with less
that 25 miles total on it after 1 year...does what you said still apply
fully?

Peace,
Polfus

 

Now see that just makes complete sense to me....change the oil every
6500-7000 miles with today's choices, or the old Mobil 1 Synthetic.

Thats what I have been doing with the stuff for 16 years....before there
were MMs on Hondas

Peace,
Polfus

 

Yeah...but still the figures make sense to me at least.

Peace,
Polfus

 

Thanks for that, Timothy!

Interesting that there is no info for degredation properties of motor oils
on that.

Anyone have a link to such info?

Peace,
Polfus

 

Thank you, Alfred, for that.

I *know* Honda has some guidelines...whether or not they make it public and
in the Owner's Manual is another story...

Peace,
Polfus

 

Now you're talking, Seth.

Makes complete sense to me, man...especially if you maintain your behicle
where you change oil *before* its worn out.

Peace,
Polfus

 

Your comment is *MOOT* if the dude changes the oil himself.

Think about it, preferably before you start typing.

Polfus

 

Understood. And thanks for the lack of attitude in your reply...

Peace,
Polfus

 

Hey...you are a little shit when you want to be, no doubt.

You scare me sometimes..where do you come up with this stuff?

You the same dude that recommended the double-blind study a while ago?

Hey...at least there would be no *GUESSWORK* involved in when to change your
oil, you silly man.

Well neither is a system that *GUESSES* when I should change my oil.

And that, my mentally challenged friend, is the bottom line.

Polfus

 

Well...if you put it like that, I must agree.

Heh...I hear you.

Goddamn corrupt bureaucracy sucks ass, and we both know it.

Yeah...then they become objects of scrutinization.

How much does the thing cost, by the way..any idea as to what it marks a car
up, generally?

If the car lasts, sure...but still..I would love to see some final results
based on models that have gone the distance and see what their saving
were...if any.

Yeah...sure...just thought you may like to see it is all..not saying its the
Bible or anything..just trying to share was all.

Yeah..I hear you.

Its hard getting 12, isn't it?

I thought you were being a little harsh

12 is hard to get to, damnit!

Yeah..figured as much.

!!!!!

THAT's is what I am talking about...not just the little Honda MM thingy.

Glad to see that I am thinking correctly here...I know damn well its the
only way to really tell when the suff needs changing.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check it out, Elle:

http://www.intellistick.com/

http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-10863_7-6797519.html?tag=vid.1

Thats EXACTLY what the hell I was thinking of....fugg this damn MM
bullshit...

TEST THE DAMN OIL ITSELF...its the ONLY accurate method!!!!!

The interface with BlueTooth....foget all that or the readout....the concept
is what I mean.

Well...thank you!

Peace,
Polfus

 

Once you pop the top, it's not fresh oil. Put it in an engine, it's
definitely not fresh.

"Hey, that tuna fish that says refrigerate after opening, even if I only
open it for a second and take out 1 forkful"???

 

LOL!

I hear you....that was awesome, btw.

Peace,
Polfus

 

It's not fresh once you open it and put it in an engine.

It still has contimants in it. Under those circumstances, might it be good
for 1.5 yrs instead of 1, probably. But now you're describing an owners
manual 1000 pages long while it lists out every possible scenario rather
than the most likely that will be economical for all.

MM is for the lowest common denominator and won't have a way to
differentiate. Honda's have no DINO/SYNTH" switch under the hood.

How dirty it is, would require taking a sample and sending it for analysis.
I'd rather spend the $15 or whatever changing it than $40 for the analysis.

Yeah, but now I think you are looking for extremes.

But it's almost always going to be good enough for the masses.