2009 Accord - Bad rear brakes?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by David E. Powell, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
    the 2009 have any signs of this too?
     
    David E. Powell, Sep 10, 2009
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  2. I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
    17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
    The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
    changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
    your braking will be with the rear wheels.
    don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
    maybe only 1.5hrs.
     
    Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider, Sep 10, 2009
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  3. David E. Powell

    tww1491 Guest

    I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
    17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
    The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
    changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
    your braking will be with the rear wheels.
    don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
    maybe only 1.5hrs.

    I replaced my rears on a 06 I4 coupe at 53k. The fronts are still OK.
     
    tww1491, Sep 11, 2009
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  4. David E. Powell

    Tegger Guest



    What? He's talking through his hat.

    On a FWD car the fronts do about 80% of the braking. Unless Honda has found
    a way to repeal the laws of physics, it shall ever be thus.
     
    Tegger, Sep 11, 2009
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  5. David E. Powell

    Tegger Guest



    They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's rear
    brakes. Don't worry about it.
     
    Tegger, Sep 11, 2009
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  6. memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.

    The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
    Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
    weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.

    No way around it.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Sep 11, 2009
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  7. David E. Powell

    Tegger Guest



    Quick and simple test for anyone who rides a bicycle:

    Get the bike up to some kind of reasonable speed. Now squeeze only the REAR
    brake hard. (Let go quick so the resulting skid doesn't slam you onto the
    pavement.)

    Now do the same thing again, but this time squeeze only the FRONT brake
    hard. See the difference? Car brakes and weight transfer behave identically
    to this.

    Practical physics at work in a most abundantly convincing way!
     
    Tegger, Sep 11, 2009
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  8. I had to replace the front pads on my '04 Civic last year at 46k. Rears are
    drums and are still fine. Honda brake pads do seem to be wearing more
    quickly than they used to, from what I've been reading.
     
    Eternal Searcher, Sep 11, 2009
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  9. David E. Powell

    Tegger Guest



    I've been hanging around Usenet since about 1999. Reports of inadequate
    rear disc brake pad life have been around at least as long.

    Areas with regularly bad weather (such as the Peoples' Republic of Canada)
    have the worst pad life problems.
     
    Tegger, Sep 11, 2009
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  10. David E. Powell

    Dave D Guest

    Agree completely. We used to claim that the only reason for a rear brake
    pedal or handle on a motorcycle was to illuminate the rear stop light.
    However, perhaps the op misunderstood the service adviser. He may have been
    refering to the way in which the proportioning valve was set up. That is
    more power sent to the rear brakes than to the fronts. I can not fathom why
    Honda engineers would even consider such a stunt. More likely, the service
    adviser was trying to mollify an unhappy customer who had just had his brake
    pads replaced at low mileage .....Maybe????

    DaveD
     
    Dave D, Sep 11, 2009
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  11. David E. Powell

    Clete Guest


    Hate pads on the back. I am glad my Accord has drums.
     
    Clete, Sep 11, 2009
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  12. David E. Powell

    tww1491 Guest

    Just eyeballing it, but the rear discs seem to have a smaller diameter -- at
    least on my 06. That coupled with "softer" pads could be the reason for
    rears having to be replaced before the fronts. For my part, I was not
    distressed that my rears lasted 53k. On the other hand, our 03 Pilot had to
    have both front and rear replaced at 73k or so. So it would appear that the
    wear was pretty equal in this case.
     
    tww1491, Sep 11, 2009
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  13. David E. Powell

    E. Meyer Guest

    I see the same thing with my old Odyssey ('96) and with the '06 CRV. Both
    have four wheel disks, both have the parking brake set up with a separate
    drum inside the rear hub and both wear all four pads pretty evenly. The
    Odyssey needed its first pad change at 96k miles. The CRV is currently at
    45k and is nowhere near needing anything brake-wise.
     
    E. Meyer, Sep 11, 2009
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  14. David E. Powell

    jim beam Guest

    so, you're not returning to that dealer then i assume? because you
    shouldn't give money to retards.

    personally, if a dealer told me that, i'd note the service adviser's
    name, then call honda usa's customer service line and tell them that an
    idiot has slipped through the training net, with that name and dealer
    details. it's a fundamental customer service problem that reflects
    badly on the honda brand - they'll take care of it.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2009
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  15. David E. Powell

    a Guest

    Oh don't start this again!

    ;0)

    a
     
    a, Sep 11, 2009
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  16. David E. Powell

    a Guest

    On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier (Canadian
    if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas? My 02 Accord is
    nearing some brake work and I want to investigate options...

    a
     
    a, Sep 11, 2009
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  17. David E. Powell

    Tegger Guest



    I have yet to encounter any aftermarket brake pads or rotors that equal OEM
    in quality. All the aftermarket I've tried have ended up with some sort of
    problem that made them inferior to OEM (noise, rust, blued rotors, poor
    fit, etc.).

    However, I have never tried aftermarket parts that cost MORE than OEM.
    Those might be better than other aftermarket.
     
    Tegger, Sep 11, 2009
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  18. David E. Powell

    jim beam Guest

    i recently fitted akebonos for a friend. they're a good quality pad.
    i'd still use genuine honda on my own car, especially as the prices are
    in line with cheapo imitations, but akebono seem ok.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2009
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  19. David E. Powell

    a Guest

    Thanks! I was thinking of something like an upgrade from OEM, less fade,
    more gription - not a cost saving exercise. The only name in brakes I know
    is "Brembo".

    a
     
    a, Sep 11, 2009
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  20. David E. Powell

    jim beam Guest

    you might be disappointed, depending on your real objective. some
    aftermarket pads are terrible for fade. and i mean almost /fatally/
    bad. ones with grip and limited fade often chew disks. it's a
    compromise. and the best guarantee of a workable overall compromise,
    off the track, in my usage experience, is honda oem.

    then you need to look around some more! brembo are great at marketing -
    but there's nothing especially outstanding that differentiates them
    mechanically.
     
    jim beam, Sep 11, 2009
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