7 wheel bearings on 96 accord!!

Discussion in 'Accord' started by MajBach, Jul 11, 2003.

  1. MajBach

    MajBach Guest

    Hi all! I have a serious reoccurring problem with my 1996, Honda Accord
    (2-dr, 5-speed). At 230,000 kms, it is in need of it's 7th wheel bearing.
    About three years ago, the Px side rear bearing started to act up; I
    replaced it. A year later and 30,000+ kms, later, the same bearing went
    again. And again, the same bearing one year later. About two weeks ago, my
    front driver's side started to act up. I replaced it today as it was really
    starting to get loud. To my surprise, on the drive home, the whining sound
    is still there but not as loud. The mechanic at the dealer stated on the
    invoice that he checked the right rear bearing and it indeed needed to be
    replaced (again). However, I don't think he checked the driver's side rear
    bearing as it is also making noise (I am getting good at diagnosing which
    bearing is acting up). That will make is seven bearings in only 115,000
    kms!
    I have spoken with 4 service managers or Honda mechanics way back when I was
    only on my fourth bearing. All state that this is highly unusual. One told
    me to contact Honda Canada. I did. They may as well have laughed at me, as
    it was quite clear that even though they admitted it was unusual, there was
    nothing they could do and I should be complaining to a service manager.
    I am not willing to let this go. I have owned 6 different Honda vehicles. I
    have only ever changed 1 bearing before - eve r- and that was on a '79
    accord; it need new rotors and the bearing had seized onto the rotor; the
    bearing was still ok. All of my previous cars have lasted to the 400,000-km
    mark too. I also own a 90-hp Honda outboard motor and various other Honda
    products. I believe I am entitled to a little more customer loyalty.
    Does anybody have some suggestions or contacts for my next step?
    One more thing and this may sound a little funny. Through the course of
    speaking to other people about this problem I have heard an interesting
    diagnosis from two different people. They state that a bad ground can cause
    premature bearing failure. The logic is that the engine is on rubber
    mounts - electrically isolated from the frame. If the frame builds a static
    electric charge, the only course it can take to the engine is to arc through
    the bearings. It sounds so ridiculous that it might actually be true.
    Ironically, one of the first things I noticed with this car was that I
    always got one helluva shock whenever I exited the vehicle. Whaddya think?
     
    MajBach, Jul 11, 2003
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    Sean Dinh Guest

    What did you do to your Accord? Does it still use original springs and wheel?
     
    Sean Dinh, Jul 11, 2003
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  3. MajBach

    Craig Smith Guest

    Also, are you using a quality replacement bearing or a cheap jobber part
    from CanadianTire, NAPA etc? Those parts only last 30,000km if your lucky.
    At least with the factory part they manufacture them to TRY and get you
    through the warranty period!
    Craig,
     
    Craig Smith, Jul 12, 2003
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  4. I guess you'd have noticed if you had a dragging brake? No noticeable tire
    problems - like cupping or extreme uneven wear?... wheels are running true
    and well balanced? I can see where, with a high mileage vehicle, one might
    expect an occasional wheel bearing failure but the repetition might point
    to a problem with the installation - possibly misalgnment on the axle,
    wrong lubricant or water getting in. Have you seen one of the failed
    bearings to see if it's showing signs of corrosion or water mixed with the
    grease... or uneven wear?
    The engine is not isolated from the body though, or the starter would never
    work, the alternator would have a hard time and the ignition would have an
    awful weak spark, if any at all. All the Hondas I've seen have a heavy
    ground strap from the battery to frame to transmission mount and a smaller
    one from one of the valve cover studs to the front valance. Even without
    that there are other ground paths such as the speedometer cable or the VSS
    sensor wiring - not what you'd want of course. Reminds me of a story about
    VW Rabbits, where the main engine ground strap would lose contact and the
    speedometer cable would melt and seize.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jul 13, 2003
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  5. I'd be more inclined to suspect a wheel/tire imbalance for the bearing
    going bad. It's easy to live with a slight imbalance in the rear and tire
    shops often do not do a good job of tire/wheel balancing. Not long ago I
    had to have a flat fixed in an emergency and asked for a rebalance but it
    was never right and I had to go to my usual tire shop to get it done right.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jul 14, 2003
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  6. MajBach

    Tegger® Guest



    Silly question: Do you have aftermarket wheels?
     
    Tegger®, Jul 17, 2003
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