84 pain in the butt Accord

Discussion in 'Accord' started by becida, Dec 3, 2003.

  1. becida

    becida Guest

    I bought an '84 Honda Accord at an auction, an auction is always a gamble,
    only paid $200.
    I like Honda's they are fun to drive, economical & comfortable. I had
    forgotten how much I dislike working on them.
    This one ran when I bought it, turned out it ran well enough to get into the
    sales ring and back to it's parking spot. I changed the fuel filters &
    cleaned the spark plugs then it ran well enough to have a serious miss/
    backfire.
    A compression check showed there was a problem, so now I'm taking the head
    off. I had honesty forgotten just how much there is to do in taking the head
    off an older Honda.
    No more older Honda cars for me...
    Just had to vent somewhere.

    Rob
    (still working at taking the radiator off so I can get a wrench on the lower
    air line from the exhaust manifold & hoping I have marked the five thousand
    vacuum hoses well enough so I can get the sucker back together if the
    problem is not too expensive.)
     
    becida, Dec 3, 2003
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  2. becida

    Eric Guest

    I'm not sure why you're taking the head off. Your symptoms sound more like
    an ignition problem, e.g., spark plug wires, distributor, etc especially
    since the compression checked out all right. Moreover, a leak down test
    should help to find a problem if you suspect something's wrong with the
    valves. But anyways, if you are pulling the head, you can make life easy on
    yourself and leave the exhaust and intake manifolds attached. Everything
    stays on the intake manifold, carb, vacuum lines, including the vacuum
    control boxes. Then when you get the head off put it in a stand such as one
    of these http://tinyurl.com/xo2h to work on it. Note that it will take two
    people to pull the head with everything still attached but it's a lot easier
    in the long run.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Dec 4, 2003
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  3. I agree the 82-84 is fun to drive but can tell you I've taken heads in and
    out ten times near the end of its life. On the tenth time, I <beep> had it.
    Okay, I had to vent it, too. But it's not the car's fault. I soon learn that
    these babies can go 300k or more and keep goin...

    The problem I had was the head and carb. My repairs were not adequate. Word
    of advice, it must go in precisely with OEM gaskets and anything around it
    has to be inspected. The head must be in top shape before it goes in. After
    1200 mi, angle torque it again. Any signs that the head had been exposed to
    over heating prior should be rejected...god knows what's gonna go wrong.

    The best approach is get a new motor from the salvage yard with a
    compression inspection report nearing the 184 range. Not below 180s range.
    These top range means that's there's no overheating and untouched and will
    last forever, assuming proper maintenance.

    A motor here runs about 200 bucks, the price of your car. If I can go back,
    I would care for my baby differently. That's why my 15 year old steady idle
    Honda at 250k mi with top spec compression with little or no oil comsumption
    is remarkable for a Honda. I could just WELD this hood shut.
    Ind
     
    Indian Summer, Dec 4, 2003
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  4. becida

    Eric Guest

    OK. That was my mistake. I reread your original post and noted that you
    had indeed stated that there was a problem with the compression.

    However, my advice regarding removing the head with the manifolds attached
    still stands as the easier method.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Dec 5, 2003
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  5. becida

    cooncat Guest

    You paid $195 too much!




     
    cooncat, Dec 5, 2003
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