87 Accord-Engine Overheated

Discussion in 'Accord' started by KenA, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. KenA

    KenA Guest

    About 2 weeks ago, my 87 DX Accord engine (240,000 mi) severely overheated (temp
    gauge red-lined) and the engine stopped. Car sat at the curb over night. Had the car
    towed to a local garage the next morning. When they went to look at it they noted:
    1. The car started right up (and even called me to ask why did I bring the car into
    their shop)
    2. Added 1 gallon on water to the radiator.
    3. Did a pressure check on the cooling system and saw no indication of leaks.

    They said due to the overheating, the compression on the engine is probably worse, so
    gas mileage will be less.

    I've changed the oil and filter.

    But, in the intervening 2 weeks, here's what I noticed:
    1. Gas mileage seems to have gone from about 25 to 34 mpg.
    2. The values (which previously rattled because they were loose), now are totally
    silent.
    3. The engine runs smoothly and quietly, even uphill, under load.

    So, is the surprising improvement only temporary and the engine will totally die in
    the not-too-distant future, or have I someone managed to overheat the engine enough
    to compensate for 240,000 miles of wear but not damage it, as it nor seems to run
    almost as new????

    I love the car and thought I had destroyed it, but now I wonder and ask you for your
    sage advice / opinions.

    Thanks!
    Ken
     
    KenA, Aug 31, 2006
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  2. KenA

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    Love it enough to pull the engine out of it and check it for damage?
    How bout driving it till something falls off or quits working. bob
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Aug 31, 2006
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  3. As Bob says, a central question is "what are you going to do with the
    information?" But that's not our call; here's my 2 cents' worth.

    The risk is that the head may have warped. Aluminum has twice the thermal
    coefficient of expansion compared to iron, so when the engine overheats
    badly the head is often forced to bow up. So, keep an eye open for any of
    the typical signs of head gasket leaks:
    *unstable temperature, with spikes of overheating
    *the coolant level drops although there are no puddles under the car
    *sweet, white smoke from the exhaust
    *milky appearance of the oil on the dipstick or oil floating on the coolant
    in the reservoir
    The classic shade-tree test for head gasket leakage is to start with a cold
    engine, remove the radiator cap and start the engine. Pinch off the hose
    going to the reservoir and put the palm of your hand on the radiator cap
    opening. If you feel a steady pressure rise in the next few seconds or
    (worse) pulsations, that's bad news for the head/gasket.

    Either way, I wouldn't trust the engine to any long road trips for a few
    weeks, until it earns your confidence. Having to deal with head gasket
    problems hundreds of miles from home would be a hassle.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Aug 31, 2006
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  4. KenA

    JXStern Guest

    The good news is they still had iron liners at that time.

    If it was a quick/brief overheat, and the actual temperature never
    really went that high, you should be OK. Though just why things would
    get *better* afterwards, must remain a mystery! Maybe a sticky valve
    unstuck. Was it running hot beforehand, or was this all sudden?

    J.
     
    JXStern, Aug 31, 2006
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  5. KenA

    jim beam Guest

    sure, you now have coolant and the temp sensor is now telling the ecu to
    inject the correct amount of gas.
    that needs to be fixed asap. there should be some lash. see the
    sticker under the hood for specs.
    isn't it amazing how the acoustic damping of a little coolant makes an
    engine quieter?
    try and figure out how you lost the coolant in the first place. you may
    get lucky and have this engine continue to run. more likely however,
    the head gasket will start to leak, if it's not already the cause of
    your coolant loss. continue to operate the vehicle and pay close
    attention to any symptoms. look for bubbles in the coolant and monitor
    coolant level [*inside the radiator* and the expansion bottle] every day
    when cold in the morning. and cross your fingers.
     
    jim beam, Sep 1, 2006
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