87 Civic won't idle

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Adam, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. Adam

    Adam Guest

    I recently purchased 1987 Civic without fuel injection (carbureted).
    It has less then 100k miles on it and is in great condition. The
    other day I replaced the secondary fuel filter (the little one between
    the fuel pump and carb) as I have no idea if it has ever been
    replaced. Now the damn thing refuses to idle. When I let my foot off
    the gas it just dies. It's driving me nuts. I have checked to make
    sure that all the vacuum lines are properly attached as I had to
    remove the air cleaner to get to the filter. I just don't get it.
    Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be wrong?

    Much thanks.

    --adam
     
    Adam, Apr 29, 2004
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  2. Adam

    Tegger® Guest

    (Adam) spake unto the masses in


    You still have something disconnected/broken. You've very likely got a
    massive air leak into the intake. Go back and check very carefully. Did you
    have to disconnect the PCV valve or anything?

    Also make sure none of those hoses are cracked near the ends. With a car
    that old, some of the hoses will be brittle enough to risk cracking around
    the ends where they meet the pipe they attach to. They can also get old
    enough to not go back as tight as they came off.


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    Tegger®, Apr 29, 2004
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  3. Adam

    Adam Guest

    You still have something disconnected/broken. You've very likely got a
    That brings up another good (read: stupid) question. Does anyone know
    where the stupid PCV valve is located? I've looked all over for it
    and found nothing. Thanks.

    --adam
     
    Adam, Apr 30, 2004
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  4. Adam

    Adam Guest

    You still have something disconnected/broken. You've very likely got a
    I just took a quick look under the hood and I was wondering if the PCV
    valve is seated in the valve cover with a short hose (1.5" long)
    leading to the blow by filter in the air cleaner.

    Ref.: http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/WorkshopManualCivic84-87/62sb200/12-21.pdf

    --adam
     
    Adam, Apr 30, 2004
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  5. Adam

    Adam Guest

    Would a cracked hose leading to the blow-by filter (from the valve
    cover) cause this problem?

    I'm at work right now without my tools so it's hard to get a good look
    at all of the vacuum lines.

    --adam
     
    Adam, Apr 30, 2004
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  6. Adam

    Tegger® Guest

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    ANYthing that causes a big enough air leak into the intake manifold (or the
    carburetor under the throttle plate) will cause stalling at idle.

    You need to follow ALL lines that lead from the intake manifold (or carb
    under the throttle plate) and follow them back to the other end.

    I do not know exactly where your PCV valve is. The page you reference in
    one other message says it is in the "breather chamber". You need to find
    this breather chamber, obviously. If it is same as the valve cover, that
    should be plainly evident. In any case, tracing all the lines back ought to
    reveal its location.

    A point you may want to check: Some cheap aftermarket PCV valves that are
    meant to stand vertically have a simple ball bearing on a seat. If this
    valve gets tilted upside down, the ball can fall out unnoticed, creating a
    giant air leak. Maybe not the case here, but worth investigating.

    Also, make sure the carb is tight down on its mounting gasket or spacer. A
    loose carb can also cause stalling at idle. Make sure the intake manifold
    is tight against the head too. Grab it and wiggle hard up and down. No
    movement should be evident at all.

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    Tegger®, Apr 30, 2004
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