'87 Prelude misses then dies--ignitor problems?

Discussion in 'Prelude' started by Scott Newell, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. Scott Newell

    Scott Newell Guest

    A few months back I was stranded when my '87 prelude died on the road.
    Started with a very minor intermittent hesitation, proceeded to a
    severe loss of power and hard miss every few seconds, and within an
    hour at highway speed it finally quit running completely. Would not
    restart. Fuel pump ran for a few seconds when the key was turned,
    so I quickly ruled out the main relay. (I had resoldered the joints
    a few years back.) Cranked but wouldn't 'catch'.

    It sat overnight until I could get a trailer. Once it had cooled off
    it would start and run for 10-20 seconds, but not with enough power to
    actually move the car.

    Replaced fuel filter--no help. Checked and found no spark.
    Replaced distributor (including ignitor and pickup coils)--yes!


    Fast forward a few months. Car is rarely driven, at least until last
    week. This evening I noticed the very minor miss on the way home from
    work, and sure enough it progressed just as before. This time I found
    a nice parking lot to stop in *before* it died completely.

    Come to think of it, I did notice that the tach was bouncing up a few
    hundred RPM every few seconds when the car was cold and at fast idle
    ....maybe that was a warning?

    The distributor is a reman with lifetime warranty, so I'll pick one up
    and either change the entire unit, or maybe just the ignitor module
    (if I can get to it). But, I'm thinking an aftermarket reman
    distributor should last more than 500 miles.

    So, what else should I be looking at? Does anyone know of any other
    common failure points?

    Last time, the coil checked fine. I'm considering changing it anyway.
    The little radio noise condenser checked fine last time too.

    Is there anything that could be causing this car to eat ignitors?

    Or maybe it's not the ignitor at all?


    thanks!
    newell
     
    Scott Newell, Feb 20, 2005
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  2. Scott Newell

    Remco Guest

    There are many no start conditions so here are just a couple:

    You could check the ignitor by putting a small bulb across the coil's
    primary. If you see it flash, your ignitor is most likely not your
    problem (I've checked them with a scope, but someone here taught me the
    bulb trick which is a lot more convenient).
    If you do replace the ignitor, be sure to apply some heat sink compound
    under the device. It will get rid of generated heat and prolong the
    life of the ignitor.

    About those RPM bounces on the tach, do you think they were real engine
    speed changes or just an indicator change?
    Your crankshaft position sensor determines your fuel injection timing
    and measures your engine speed, etc. Maybe that thing is not working
    right or has a bad connection.
    On an integra the crankshaft sensor is a simple go/nogo continuity
    check. You may want to check your manual on how to inspect that sensor.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Feb 20, 2005
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  3. Scott Newell

    disallow Guest

    I suppose it would be important as well to know
    if this is a Prelude Si (fuel injected) or an S (dual carbs)....

    t
     
    disallow, Feb 22, 2005
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