'88 Legend Coupe lower ball joint removal

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ryan Biggs, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Ryan Biggs

    Ryan Biggs Guest

    Hello all,

    I've had my '88 2dr 5spd for 7 years now and have done almost all my
    own work on it. I don't have much experience with suspension work,
    however, and now it's time to dive in. I need to replace the front
    axles, and I figure I might do the shocks since I'm in there already.
    (They don't seem too bad, but they are original.)

    Anyhow, I'm having trouble separating the ball joints from the lower
    arm. These were replaced a couple of years ago, so I'm trying not to
    trash them. The shop manual talks about a gear puller on lugs on the
    arm, but they always seem to slip off. I also tried a puller with the
    arms seated on the top of the arm, outside the boot. But it's very
    difficult to keep the puller straight, and it still seems to pull off
    at the slightest provokation. I got frightened I was going to tear
    some parts up in a serious way trying this method.

    Seems like maybe a lever type ball joint remover might do the trick,
    but the biggest jaws on these seem to be about 22mm. Using a caliper,
    I found that the smallest jaw that would fit easily without forcing it
    under the boot is about 30mm. I'm a bit afraid to try to ram anything
    under that boot! Also I hear about various ways to separate the works
    with creative use of a hammer, but this seems dubious when separating
    good parts.

    I know this can't be that impossible, so obviously I'm just missing
    the secret trick. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
    Ryan Biggs, Mar 27, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    yes, go to tegger.com and look at the tools this job requires. he's got
    pics. they're not too expensive and don't ruin your boots.
     
    jim beam, Mar 28, 2006
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  3. Ryan Biggs

    Ryan Biggs Guest

    Excellent resource! I haven't been able to track down your premium
    tool, but the FAQ points out the obivious solution of grinding down
    the jaws of one of the cheaper tools...

    If anyone else has some bright ideas feel free to point them out...

    -R
     
    Ryan Biggs, Mar 28, 2006
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  4. Ryan Biggs

    jim beam Guest

    generic tools are perfectly usable in this situation. google "ball
    joint separator". i wouldn't grind anything down unless it's absolutely
    necessary, and in this case, it's not.
     
    jim beam, Mar 28, 2006
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  5. Ryan Biggs

    TeGGeR® Guest


    The OTC tool was a bit tight to go neatly around the boot enough for me to
    feel comfortable with its "bite". It fit fine around the steering tie-rod
    boot, though.

    I'm sure the Honda tool fits perfectly. Of course.

    If you open up the jaw, you don't have to take much off, and you have to
    make sure you smooth it all off after so as not to risk cutting the boot
    with sharp edges.
     
    TeGGeR®, Mar 28, 2006
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  6. Ryan Biggs

    Ryan Biggs Guest


    Yeah, this was my concern. A little light working with a dremel
    grinder would probably do the trick. I understand the hesitation to go
    grinding on a highly stressed puller like this though. Looks like
    Stahlwille has some of the right jaw size, if I can find a US
    distributor...

    Any other tricks for using these other than those listed in
    tegger.com, or just slide 'em on and crank?

    -R
     
    Ryan Biggs, Mar 28, 2006
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  7. Ryan Biggs

    jim beam Guest

    generously oil the threads, but not the forks!
     
    jim beam, Mar 28, 2006
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  8. Ryan Biggs

    Ryan Biggs Guest


    Makes good sense; thanks a million guys!

    -R
     
    Ryan Biggs, Mar 28, 2006
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  9. Ryan Biggs

    Ryan Biggs Guest

    Found one that looks like Princess Auto's on eBay for $29. Guess I'll
    be getting that one and taking the grinder to it. The ones from
    Stahlwille look perfect, but at $150+ are a little steep unless the
    cheap solution fails utterly... Hope things work out. Thanks again.

    -R
     
    Ryan Biggs, Mar 28, 2006
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  10. ---------------------------

    The one you showed the eBay link for is IDENTICAL to the Princess Auto
    version ( http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/disconnect.html ). One thing
    you should know: Grind a little groove where the tip of the screw
    touches the other half. It will keep it from torqueing sideways when you
    start tightening. I noticed some of the finer ones have a groove there.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', May 6, 2006
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