90 Accord how to setting idle speed and timing

Discussion in 'Accord' started by crw, Aug 3, 2005.

  1. crw

    crw Guest

    Hello everyone, I need help to get my car ready for the highway but got
    very confused after I check the old postings on the subject. It is
    because:
    1. To set the timing, I need to short the service plug and disconnect
    the EACV before I look at the timing mark.
    2. To set the idle speed, I need to disconnect the EACV. When I
    disconnect the EACV, the engine stall badly and stop completely.
    My questions are:
    A. Why did my car stall and die ? Are my settings totally out of whack?
    B. Should I use the throttle to keep it going and adjust the idle speed
    screw to increase the idle speed ? Someone mentioned 550 rpm with the
    EACV disconnected. Is this about right?
    C. RM mentioned that when setting the timing, the EACV needs to be
    disconnected, then do you set the timing at 550 rpm ?
    My car seemed to be running satisfactorily, and gas milage is 22 mpg in
    the city.
    Very confused.
    Crw
     
    crw, Aug 3, 2005
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  2. crw

    jim beam Guest

    who told you to disconnect the eacv??? please cite references - i'd
    love to see it!!!

    no, you leave the eacv connected, and short the service plug. then you
    can set the timing no problem.
     
    jim beam, Aug 3, 2005
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  3. crw

    crw Guest

    An Old posting by RM:
    the idle speed setting in on the underhood emissions sticker...i
    believe it is ~770 in gear. Note that the tach starts at 500, not 0.

    most likely culrpits are:

    EACV (idle air valve)...dirty
    this is on the front of the throttle body...looks like a black
    motor....remove two 10mm bolts and electrical connection (leave
    cooling lines attached)...clean with solvent (and clean screen
    carefully). apply voltage and make sure valve operates smoothly

    the EACV (elect air control valve) regulates idle speed and is
    controlled by ECU (engine control unit)

    Throttle Body...dirty. clean with throttle body cleaner spray

    clean/replace pcv valve
    clean EGR valve

    if car misses around 2000 rpm once warmed up, your EGR passages are
    probably clogged up...

    There's no 'fast idle adjustment' on your car.

    The idle speed is controlled by the EACV (electronic air control
    valve).

    The EACV sets the idle speed based on input from the ECU (engine
    control unit). The ECU changes idle speed based on temp, whether ac
    is on, electrical load, power steering load, etc.

    It's possible that your EACV is faulty or dirty. This is a gizmo on
    the front of the throttle body which looks like a black motor is part
    of it. Unbolt the two bolts (leave small coolant lines attached), and
    spray some carb cleaner thru it. Activate it by applying voltage (do
    not fry it) and make sure it goes click-click when activated. The
    screen gets gunked up on this part. If this part were completely shot,
    the car idles at ~400 rpm and you get a check-engine light. (you
    disconnect the EACV when setting ignition timing.

    Crw
     
    crw, Aug 3, 2005
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  4. crw

    Grahame Guest

    If your car is running satisfactory then WHY do you want to change the
    timing and idle speed, you do not need to disconnect anything just to check
    the settings?
     
    Grahame, Aug 3, 2005
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  5. No just short the service plug.
    Perhaps your timing, yes.
    Set the timing first, then the idle speed.

    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/5-16.pdf Page 7


    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/5-24.pdf
     
    Steve Bigelow, Aug 3, 2005
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  6. crw

    crw Guest

    Thank you everyone for helping out. I finally open up the EACV, and I
    couldn't see the screen ! Spray some carb cleaner, it really get the
    job done and when I pulled the EACV connector, it was 500 rpm.
    Although the car is behaving ok and I get ok gas mileage. My coworker
    told me she got 375mi on a full tank of gas. (92 Accord ) My car would
    not be able to get that. So I want to do a good job and get the car
    ready for the highway as well.
    Crw
     
    crw, Aug 5, 2005
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