90 Civic Si stalling problem

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Ecoopr05, May 22, 2006.

  1. Ecoopr05

    Ecoopr05 Guest

    My 1990 Civic Si stalls as I am coming to a stop less than 25 mph when
    the gas tank is at half or less than half. When it is over half it
    runs perfect. So far I have replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter.
    One thing I noticed which was weird my friend got diagrams from our
    local honda dealer for replacing the fuel pump. It is supposed to be
    located under the rear seat under a silver panel. I disassembled this
    and all I found was the fuel gauge. After dropping the tank I located
    the fuel pump on the back left side of the gas tank.
    My suspiscion is that an aftermarket fuel pump was put in the wrong
    area of the tank thus when the tank is less than half full then pump is
    not pulling fuel. This makes sense to me because when coming to a stop
    the gas would shift to the front of the tank(where the fuel pump should
    be located) and since it is located at the back of the tank the fuel
    pump is just sucking fumes and very little gasoline.

    Does this make sense, any suggestions? My next step was to relocate
    the fuel pump at the OEM location(under the rear seat) and perhaps it
    would reach the bottom of the tank better and would fix my problem?
     
    Ecoopr05, May 22, 2006
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    wrote in
    There may be baffles in the tank to limit fuel sloshing around.
    I'd get an OEM fuel pump and install it,putting it back the way it was
    originally.
    You may need a new fuel tank,if the aftermarket fuel pump needed new holes
    for installation,or if it's some custom or oddball fuel tank..
     
    Jim Yanik, May 22, 2006
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  3. Ecoopr05

    jim beam Guest

    not on that vintage civic - the pump can only be accessed by dropping
    the tank.
    the sender unit, that's correct.
    possible, but the pump is correctly located. make sure the feed pipe's
    not bent and goes to the bottom of the tank properly. is the tank
    dented at all?
    i'd make sure there are no other problems first.
    again, look for other problems first. has the idle been set correctly
    and does the iacv work properly? if you do all that, drop the tank and
    check the pump. in fact, you may as well replace it since dropping the
    tank is a real pita and you don't want to be doing it again any time soon.
     
    jim beam, May 23, 2006
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  4. Ecoopr05

    Ecoopr05 Guest

    As far as the layout of the fuel gauge/pump I was incorrect.
    Everything is assembled as it should be just was a bad connector for
    the sock filter
    Okay so I put in my old fuel pump and noticed there wasn't a joint
    connector or a sock filter hooked up. So I emptied out the fuel tank
    completely and found the joint connector/sock filter floating around on
    the bottom of the tank. I hooked this back up and reassembled
    everything and it seemed to run fine(I think it is because the joint
    connector and sock filter add about 1 1/2'' of length to reach the
    bottom of the tank which makes a dramatic difference in suction for the
    pump). The next day I was driving it and it got down below half tank
    again and started freaking out worse than before. I am guessing the
    connector just sucks and won't keep the filter connected. My next step
    is to go down to autozone and get a new connector(maybe a hose perhaps
    2'' or so long) with some clamps and reattach everything and pray it
    holds and the problem is fixed.
     
    Ecoopr05, May 29, 2006
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    TeGGeR® Guest


    Very interesting work. Did you find any rust or water in the tank?

    When you pull the pump again, would it be possible to take photos?
     
    TeGGeR®, May 30, 2006
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  6. Ecoopr05

    Ecoopr05 Guest

    Okay so I dropped the tank and pulled the fuel pump out. The joint
    connector was missing along with the sock filter. I went to autozone
    got a new sock filter. The design had changed instead of having a
    joint connector to the sock filter the sock filter just connects to the
    bottom of the fuel pump and the gasket goes overtop of it for a snug
    firm fit.

    So In the end:
    Problem: Fault joint connector that connects to the sock filter on the
    bottom of the fuel pump

    Solution: New sock filter without the joint connector.

    This had to be the weirdest solution as I have asked many mechanics
    about my problem and none had this as a solution so I guess I was
    pretty lucky. Now my 90' Civic Si is running sweet. Thanks for all
    the help everyone.
     
    Ecoopr05, Jun 11, 2006
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