'91 Accord - DTC 12 EGR valve - My Experience.

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Todd K., Dec 9, 2004.

  1. Todd K.

    Todd K. Guest

    I recently resolved my DTC 12 problem on my '91 Accord and thought I
    would share my results. If you've read this far, you probably already
    know that DTC 12 is EGR Valve Lift Sensor Failure as per the shop
    manual.

    My symptoms were :

    -CEL (DTC 12) would come on shortly after driving the car each time.
    -Engine would nearly stall (but never did)when coming to a complete
    stop

    I did the diagnostic checks recommended in the manual with the vacuum
    pump/gauge and everything checked out OK. So I figured it was either
    clogged EGR ports or a bad lift sensor. I cleaned the EGR ports. They
    were almost completely clogged. BTW, get some replacement plugs from
    the dealer. They are only $0.60 ea. and you WILL drill thru at least
    one trying to take them out. This did solve my problem. So next I
    plunked down the $150 and ordered the EGR valve (the lift sensor does
    not come as a separate part) from Majestic Honda online. Slapped it on
    with a new gasket (the gasket came with the valve. You don't need to
    order a separate one. Anyone need a EGR gasket?) and the DCT 12
    cleared and it idles fine now. Cleaning the ports did not solve my DTC
    12 problem, but it did improve the vibration in the steering wheel at
    idle while in Drive or Reverse.

    Thanks for listening,

    Todd K.
     
    Todd K., Dec 9, 2004
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  2. Todd K.

    Todd K. Guest

    correction:

    cleaning the EGR ports did NOT solve my problem.

    Todd K.
     
    Todd K., Dec 9, 2004
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  3. Todd K.

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Did you ever perform a valve adjustment? The early CR-V's did that
    (stalling trick) because the valves tend to tighten, and the manual says
    'don't adjust unless they get noisy'. . . . BRILLIANT SUGGESTION.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 9, 2004
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  4. Todd K.

    Todd K. Guest

    No, I didn't.

    This stalling was definitlely due to the EGR valve remaining open too
    much when idling. It makes sense, since the lift sensor was not
    telling the ECU that the valve was already open enough.

    Todd K.
     
    Todd K., Dec 9, 2004
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  5. Todd K.

    marcel Guest

    check your air inlet circuit
    it can be some false air intake during engine warm up
    check the gaskets too

    marcel
     
    marcel, Dec 10, 2004
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