91 Accord - speedo comes & goes, flashing S, check engine light

Discussion in 'Accord' started by R Flowers, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. R Flowers

    R Flowers Guest

    I have a 91 Honda Accord. This is the latest in the car's lifelong ambition
    to have everything go wrong at least once.

    As I was driving (highway speeds) the speedometer acted up - it went a
    little higher (maybe), fluctuated, went to zero, then came back. Well,
    another thing to look into, I thought. We stopped and ate.

    Then, coming back home, it started doing it again. At the same time, the S
    light started blinking. Then the speedometer seemed to correct, but the S
    light kept flashing. As it flashed, the engine's power was diminishing. Then
    the check engine light came on, and the power came back (like a kick in the
    pants). The S light kept flashing, and we made it the short distance back to
    home.

    Doing a little research made it seem like the problem was the vehicle speed
    sensor. When I got the codes, though:

    Check Engine - 43
    S (TCU) - 4

    That doesn't seem to make sense. Some websites show 43 as a fuel delivery
    problem??

    BTW, I don't know if it has any bearing, but the cars battery went low a
    couple of days ago and we had a friend jump it (I wasn't there). The battery
    seemed to go dead for no reason, although my wife thinks she might have
    gotten the seat belt buckle jammed in the door.

    Thanks for any insight,
    R Flowers
     
    R Flowers, Jan 21, 2008
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    Charles Guest

    The S indicator will keep flashing until you turn off the engine. It will
    not reappear if the fault has been cleared since it was first set.
    The whole story has the aroma of an electrical problem. A skittish power
    supply could manifest itself by throwing some codes from the engine or
    transmission computers.

    I'll bet you have an intermittent electrical connection somewhere. When was
    the last time you checked and cleaned the battery terminals? Perhaps you
    have a loose ground connection somewhere. When you drive at night, do the
    headlights dim? Does the horn work?

    Does the charging circuit work?

    Has the problem reappeared since that fateful drive?
     
    Charles, Jan 21, 2008
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  3. R Flowers

    R Flowers Guest

    This just happened today. It is my wife's car, and she won't drive it unless
    I can convince here the problem is gone for good.

    The bad connection theory intrigues me. My garage has some bags & buckets of
    bird seed. Mice have gotten in. Just the other day I noticed some empty
    sunflower seed jackets on my battery (the other car).

    It could be as simple as that, although those things can be hard to track
    down.

    Thanks,
    R Flowers
     
    R Flowers, Jan 21, 2008
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    Charles Guest

    It might take some scientific investigation and the careful recording of
    evidence. Get a schematic of the car's electrical system. Determine what
    circuits are in common with the failed items. The more simultaneous
    failures, the closer to the battery you get. That's why I mentioned the
    lights and the horn.

    Stress the electrical system by putting on additional load. Rear window
    defogger on, blower on. Don't rev the engine. If everything's working adding
    load shouldn't dim the headlights. You might have a high resistance
    connection somewhere which will be exacerbated by the extra current flowing.
    Fix whatever bursts into flames.
     
    Charles, Jan 21, 2008
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  5. R Flowers

    Kim Bonnesen Guest

    This look like a problem with the minus wire somewhere , please check it
    from the battery to the chassis (could be here)

    Kim
     
    Kim Bonnesen, Feb 10, 2008
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  6. R Flowers

    Kim Bonnesen Guest

    This look like a problem with the minus wire somewhere , please check it
    from the battery to the chassis (could be here)

    Kim
     
    Kim Bonnesen, Feb 10, 2008
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  7. R Flowers

    R Flowers Guest

    Here's how this turned out: I replaced the vehicle speed sensor, and that
    has apparently corrected the problem My theory regarding the trouble code of
    43 (fuel delivery problem) is: As the VSS sent an improper signal to the
    computer, the computer began to cut down on the fuel supply. Then as I
    pressed the gas pedal for more fuel, it might have gone into some failure
    mode that gave up trying to tune the fuel delivery. I don't know much about
    the computer/fuel interactions, though.

    Thanks to all those who responded.

    -- R Flowers

    <snip>
     
    R Flowers, Feb 12, 2008
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  8. R Flowers

    R Flowers Guest

    Here's how this turned out: I replaced the vehicle speed sensor, and that
    has apparently corrected the problem My theory regarding the trouble code of
    43 (fuel delivery problem) is: As the VSS sent an improper signal to the
    computer, the computer began to cut down on the fuel supply. Then as I
    pressed the gas pedal for more fuel, it might have gone into some failure
    mode that gave up trying to tune the fuel delivery. I don't know much about
    the computer/fuel interactions, though.

    Thanks to all those who responded.

    -- R Flowers

    <snip>
     
    R Flowers, Feb 12, 2008
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