'91 Accord won't start when wet

Discussion in 'Accord' started by caroline_t, May 26, 2005.

  1. caroline_t

    caroline_t Guest

    I have a '91 accord with 230,000 miles on it. When the car is wet, I have
    to hold the key for about 5-10 seconds to get the engine to catch. When
    it catches, it runs rough for 5-10 minutes. It has been raining for 5
    days and now the car will not "catch" at all. The engine turned a couple
    times but never caught. The spark plugs are new (less than a year, or
    10,000 miles). I've checked all the fuses. Any suggestions? Thanks in
    advance.
     
    caroline_t, May 26, 2005
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  2. Unusual. Check your battery terminal connections. Clean them well. Are
    they wet?
     
    merlotbrougham, May 26, 2005
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  3. caroline_t

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Replace the plug wires, and wipe out the inside of the distributor cap.
    High-tension current (used to fire the plugs) is leaking off before it hits
    the plugs.

    Spend the extra $20 and get OEM from the dealer. You'll help save your coil
    that way.
     
    TeGGeR®, May 26, 2005
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  4. caroline_t

    Jason Guest

    I just wanted to tell the oringinal poster to check the distributer cap
    for cracks when you finish cleaning it. It's easy to miss the cracks
    unless you look very carefully at it. Some people replace the distributer
    cap every 30,000 miles. If you have NEVER replaced the distributer cap--go
    ahead and buy a new one.
     
    Jason, May 26, 2005
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  5. caroline_t

    SadaYama Guest

    Yup. Like everybody said, replace distributor cap, rotor, spark plug
    wires and coil wire and get the baby humming again.
     
    SadaYama, May 26, 2005
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  6. caroline_t

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    If it's spinning OK, but not firing, try holding the pedal to the floor
    and crank it for ten - fifteen seconds. If it starts, you've got one
    injector leaking. Especially if the problem only happens if the car sat
    overnight or longer. This is decscribed in your Owner's manual as
    Flooded Engine, and the manual says it's OK to do it.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, May 26, 2005
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  7. shit, you beat me!
     
    Rattus The RAT, May 27, 2005
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  8. caroline_t

    TeGGeR® Guest


    247K on my Integra. Original clutch too.
     
    TeGGeR®, May 27, 2005
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  9. caroline_t

    SoCalMike Guest

    replace all with OEM parts:

    distributor cap
    rotor
    spark plug wires

    it should run then :)
     
    SoCalMike, May 27, 2005
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  10. caroline_t

    Dan Beaton Guest


    As an emergency technique, you can spray 99% alcohol on the distributor
    cap and wires, then let it evaporate before trying to start. This will
    dispel water and make starting easier.

    If you have been having many incidents of hard starting, check your oil
    for the smell of gasoline. If you smell gas, your oil has been
    contaminated and you should change your oil.

    Dan

    (This account is not used for email.)
     
    Dan Beaton, May 27, 2005
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  11. caroline_t

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ------------------

    Excellent point. If the engine has been flooding (see my previous
    response) the oil will be stinking with gasoline, although a
    non-mechanical type might not know how it should smell. I thought that
    aduring a long drive the high heat and the PCV would extract / burn out
    a lot of gas from the oil, no?

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, May 27, 2005
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  12. caroline_t

    jim beam Guest

    depends if there's enough in there to ruin the film strength of the oil.
    someone i knew deliberately put some kerosene in their oil to "flush"
    it. and then drove it around. the journal bearings were hammered out
    inside 10 miles & had to be towed home.

    in the case above, it's safer to change. you can even do it without
    changing the filter - will get rid of enough contamination to ensure
    reliability until the next scheduled change.
     
    jim beam, May 27, 2005
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  13. caroline_t

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ------------------
    My question is, how much fuel will injected engines spray into a
    non-starting engine, (or how much fuel will drip out of the pressurized
    rail overnight if an injector is dribbling)? It's not like the old
    carburetors (with accelerator pump) that could HOSE the fuel in there,
    is it?
    When my Odyssey flooded overnight, it seemed to take a while to get it
    to start, but it was actually less than ten seconds, I'm sure. Gasohol
    cured it.
    I never thought to READ THE MANUAL to figure out the problem, at the
    time. :-(

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, May 28, 2005
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