91 Civic main relay or ignition switch?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Ropert's Aloha, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. Well thanks to this group I thought I had solved my problems. I took out the
    main relay and did find 2 hairline cracks in two solder points. But that was
    only after cleaning with lacquer thinner and putting under a magnifying
    glass. So it was cleaned and then gently soldered other solder points.
    Everything worked great and the car ran perfect. However, I drove it about 5
    miles and while driving it just died. Had to push it into a neighborhood.
    Came back later figuring I would have to tow it, but it cranked right up.
    Drove it home, but it sputtered once and seemed like the same thing was
    going to happen.

    When it did die after the first 5 mile trip, there was an electrical smell
    from the same area as the main relay. I figured I'd just have to break down
    and buy anew one. But now I wonder.........

    Where is the ignition relay located? What are the chances that is the cause?
    Could it still be the main relay?

    I have no confidence now to drive this thing to work as one minute it's
    running fine, the next it just stops dead.

    Any ideas where to go from here?

    thanks in advance

    Gary in Hawaii
    91 Civic Hatchback, 178k miles, 1500cc, 5spd
     
    Ropert's Aloha, Dec 13, 2004
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    Gershund Guest

    Many people say and think that the main relay has to be bought new and not
    "re-welded"!..Some people say is not the same thing like buying a new one
    (my suggestion for you is to buy and new one and go from there)!...

    I have a Civic 91 LX and mine is located actually behind the parking brake
    handle (quite hard to take it out, so you better count with an assorment of
    tools to use anything that fit your needs)!...
     
    Gershund, Dec 13, 2004
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    John Ings Guest

    That's the first relay in the main relay assembly. The second is the
    fuel pump relay.
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#MainRelay
    Do your warning lights all illuminate when the key is on?
    Do you hear the fuel pump run when the car is feeling colicky?

    Could be the ignition switch too.

    And have you checked for loose fuses?
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#loosefuses
     
    John Ings, Dec 13, 2004
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  4. A voltage drop test can rule out an old relay. Did you remove
    the old solder or allow venting for heat dissipation, especially in
    Hawaii? Observe the intensity of the startup lights to determine a
    bad ignition switch, if any.
     
    Burt Squareman, Dec 13, 2004
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  5. There's no such ignition relay. The main relay has a fuel pump
    relay and an ECU, injector relay. The ECU can control ignition
    timing, but still, the term isn't for this model.
     
    Burt Squareman, Dec 13, 2004
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    TeGGer® Guest


    Correct: no ignition relay. That's why the ignition switch eventually tends
    to go bad, because the contacts have to carry a full 12 volts.
     
    TeGGer®, Dec 13, 2004
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    Todd K. Guest

    I had the same problem with my '91 Accord. I first tried resoldering
    the main relay, but the problem got progressively worse untill one day
    it died and I couldn't restart it. I tried and tried and tried. The
    tow truck driver at the gas station I was parked in was eyeing me like
    vulture. Finally after about 50 attempts, it started. I drove straight
    home. A little more research on this fine newsgroup pointed to the
    ignition switch. I replaced that and have'nt had that problem since.
    Todd K.
     
    Todd K., Dec 13, 2004
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