91 Prelude timing belt break

Discussion in 'Prelude' started by san luis, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. san luis

    san luis Guest

    My 91 Prelude with 187,000 miles broke it's timing
    belt last weekend......flyin down the hiway
    and......kaput.......engine died, I shifted to
    neutral and coasted 2 miles down hill off the road
    to a parking lot......now the fun begins, I'm
    doing the work myself. Got the old belt out, it
    looked good except at the spot where it broke
    LOL...now the valve issue......I don't have much
    hope that valves aren't damaged. I'll probably
    wind up buying a rebuilt head. Just posted this
    for info purposes. I have never done timing belts
    on a car but have done a few motorcycles top to
    bottom and a ford truck 6 cylinder top to bottom.
    I have read a lot of the posts in here and have
    found them very helpful......thanks for the
    replys. Happy zooming......
     
    san luis, Feb 24, 2005
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  2. san luis

    TeGGer® Guest


    Why? Check the valve clearances. If one or more is bent, it will be very
    obvious.



    That's nice.


    Hopefully you've learned your lesson. Maintenance is highly correlated with
    reliability.
     
    TeGGer®, Feb 24, 2005
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  3. san luis

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    Those preludes are the only Honda cars where I've never seen anyone get
    "lucky" with a timing belt failure. The odds are probably against him :)
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Feb 24, 2005
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    twillmon Guest

    I had the drive end of the cam break on my Civic, believed the valves
    would be roached and pulled the head. Oddly, no bent valves.

    Now, when faced with this situation, I remove the rocker shaft
    assemblies (to close all the valves) and check for damage with a
    cylinder leakage tester. (Puts air pressure in through the plug
    port, measures air-flow rate, I listen at carb, exhaust, oil filler
    to find where the air is going if the leak rate is excessive.)

    Anyone know why that '85 breaks cams? It's on its 3rd. Every 100K
    miles. Each time within 5 miles of home (such luck! <G>)

    Tom Willmon
    near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA

    Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
     
    twillmon, Feb 25, 2005
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  5. I had to replace a broken belt on an 84 and 87 Accord, both went smooth and
    vavles were fine. Might want to repalce the waterpump and balancer belt
    while you have it apart.

    Good Luck
     
    Trail Shredder, Feb 25, 2005
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  6. san luis

    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    86-89 accords aren't exactly interference engines. I've seen many that
    didn't bend valves. (and a few that did for some reason). I've never seen a
    prelude with DOHC that didn't bend valves with a timing belt break.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Feb 25, 2005
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    chip Guest

    in the last few years i've done 4 broken prelude belts and so far not
    one of them bent the valves.
    it's hit or miss on theses things.
    Chip
     
    chip, Feb 26, 2005
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  8. san luis

    jim beam Guest

    chip wrote:
    pun intended?
     
    jim beam, Feb 26, 2005
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    Eric Guest

    This isn't a problem that I would consider common by any means. I can guess
    at a couple of causes though such as an over tensioned timing belt or
    incorrect clearance on the cam journals. It might be worthwhile to pull the
    cam towers and measure the clearance with plastigauge (note that you'll have
    to remove all traces of oil in order to get an accurate reading and also be
    sure to remove all traces of plastigauge once you're done). Yet another
    possibility is that there's reduced oil flow to the head. These engines
    used a small jet called an "oil jet orifice" inserted between the head and
    the block. This oil jet may have become blocked with crud thus reducing the
    flow of oil to the cam bearing journals.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Mar 3, 2005
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