'93 Accord High Pressure PS Hose

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Carl Gerhold, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. Carl Gerhold

    Carl Gerhold Guest

    My service shop has identified a leak close to the pulley and is
    recommending replacing the hose. I personally can't see exactly where it's
    coming from but the hood has a trail of fluid where the pulley is. Since I
    already spent $$$ for the t-belt job yesterday, I'm wondering if this would
    be a tough job for a DIY? '93 Accord SE, 224K miles. TIA.

    CG
     
    Carl Gerhold, Feb 2, 2005
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  2. Carl Gerhold

    Remco Guest

    This would be coolant that is leaking?

    If so, doing it yourself shouldn't be too hard. There are really only
    two going to the engine from the radiator. Since you see coolant near
    the pulley it is probably top hose but inspect both.
    Follow both hoses from the radiator to the engine and wipe them clean.
    Then start the engine and see where it is coming from. Perhaps do this
    after the engine has not run for a while (like overnight) so that the
    coolant will not heat up too much.

    To replace the hose, you will have to drain the coolant from the
    radiator. If the top hose is bad, you'll only need to drain a little -
    just enough so that the coolant is no longer present in the top hose.
    If the bottom hose is bad, you may need to drain the complete system.
    You'll find a drain cock on the bottom of the radiator. Catch the
    coolant in a container, being careful not to burn yourself as this can
    be very hot. (if the engine has just been running that is).

    After is has drained, loosen the clamps, replace the hose and refill
    the coolant you let drain out.

    Also, be careful spilling the coolant - Clean it up. Besides it looking
    messy in your driveway, dogs and cats seem to like to drink it. Most
    coolant is poison, so you don't want that to happen.
     
    Remco, Feb 2, 2005
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  3. Carl Gerhold

    Remco Guest

    oops -- I noticed PS in your title just now. I take it that means
    "power steering", not coolant.
    Shouldn't be too hard, but I'd get a service manual to your car to get
    specifics.

    Sorry for possible confusion caused by my previous post.
     
    Remco, Feb 2, 2005
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  4. Carl Gerhold

    TeGGer® Guest



    Not tough.

    But...it's messy unless you eject the old fluid first, and working space
    may be tight. You also need to make 100% certain that you do not introduce
    any dirt or sand into the new hose or its connections.

    You may need to remove some surrounding components and/or the front bumper
    to make access easier (not familiar with Accord on this).

    Oh, and never use anything but genuine Honda PS fluid. This is gospel.
     
    TeGGer®, Feb 3, 2005
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  5. Carl Gerhold

    Carl Gerhold Guest

    Hi all,

    I Googled for info. and found this thread on what may be similar to what is
    going on. I haven't seen the reservoir overflow. If the front shaft seal
    is bad, what can I do to verify that this is the problem?

    CG

    The shaft seal on my 91 Accord LX MT P/S pump has failed. It slowly
    leaks p/s fluid and the pulley flings it in a stripe underneath the
    hood. It also inhales air sometimes, causing the fluid to foam and the
    reservoir to overflow. It's been this way for quite some time, and even
    though it doesn't seem to be getting worse, it makes a mess and I have
    to keep my eye on the fluid level. I'd like to fix it, and to keep cost
    down I'd like to do it myself.

    I can't afford a new pump from the dealer. But, does anyone know if they
    sell a rebuild kit? If not, who does? Helm manual talks all about the
    rebuild, liberally specifying "Replace", and "Do not reuse old <washer,
    gasket, o-ring etc." Presumably the parts are available somewhere.

    Also, a year ago I spotted a junked similar vintage accord. Scrap yard
    wanted $20 for the pump, so I got it figuring it might be cost effective
    to have a place rebuild my spare pump. For folks who get into that kind
    of work, can you give me an idea of how much to expect to pay for a
    rebuild (in New England area)

    Thanks,
    Arthur


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    Hello Arthur.
    The most common seal on 90-93 Accords pumps is the front shaft seal,which
    can be replaced by itself.
    If its leaking behind the pulley, that's your problem.
    If its leaking anywhere else, the you will need to rebuild the pump, Honda
    doesn't make a kit, but they are all available separate.
    You can do it yourself, but I do recommend a good manual to help you
    along.(Helm's factory manual)
    Rich
     
    Carl Gerhold, Feb 3, 2005
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  6. Carl Gerhold

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ----------------------------

    Search the previous few weeks. There was a post where a guy said it's
    pretty normal for the high-milers to leak a little, but if you can get a
    used one for $20 GO FOR IT ! Slap it in. Be happy. Wash under the hood
    first, draw pictures if you're not sure what you're doing (or buying)
    Use honda fluid.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Feb 3, 2005
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  7. Carl Gerhold

    Carl Gerhold Guest

    Hey Curly,

    I found this thread and posted on it RAMH so you may not have seen it yet.
    I'm thinking it's the shaft seal since I can't see an active leak from the
    hose itself. Any ideas on how I can verify this? Thanks for the responses.

    Carl


    The shaft seal on my 91 Accord LX MT P/S pump has failed. It slowly
    leaks p/s fluid and the pulley flings it in a stripe underneath the
    hood. It also inhales air sometimes, causing the fluid to foam and the
    reservoir to overflow. It's been this way for quite some time, and even
    though it doesn't seem to be getting worse, it makes a mess and I have
    to keep my eye on the fluid level. I'd like to fix it, and to keep cost
    down I'd like to do it myself.

    I can't afford a new pump from the dealer. But, does anyone know if they
    sell a rebuild kit? If not, who does? Helm manual talks all about the
    rebuild, liberally specifying "Replace", and "Do not reuse old <washer,
    gasket, o-ring etc." Presumably the parts are available somewhere.

    Also, a year ago I spotted a junked similar vintage accord. Scrap yard
    wanted $20 for the pump, so I got it figuring it might be cost effective
    to have a place rebuild my spare pump. For folks who get into that kind
    of work, can you give me an idea of how much to expect to pay for a
    rebuild (in New England area)

    Thanks,

    Arthur


    pcLoser Jun 22 2001, 9:20 pm show options

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    Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:20:33 -0700

    Local: Fri, Jun 22 2001 9:20 pm

    Subject: Re: P/S pump seal woes

    Hello Arthur.

    The most common seal on 90-93 Accords pumps is the front shaft seal,which
    can be replaced by itself.
    If its leaking behind the pulley, that's your problem.
    If its leaking anywhere else, the you will need to rebuild the pump, Honda
    doesn't make a kit, but they are all available separate.

    You can do it yourself, but I do recommend a good manual to help you
    along.(Helm's factory manual)

    Rich
     
    Carl Gerhold, Feb 3, 2005
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