93 Civic LSi clutch squeak / creak

Discussion in 'Civic' started by timtech, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. timtech

    timtech Guest

    I have a 93 UK Civic LSi and the clutch has a 'dry creak' exactly the
    same as this video - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PNfp83Od_c4 . I
    think it's coming from inside the clutch housing itself, not the slave
    cylinder. I've sprayed all over the slave cylinder push rod end with
    WD40 and stuff and it makes no difference.

    Am I right in thinking it's the clutch release bearing - is there any
    way of lubricating it without taking the clutch apart or getting any
    lubricant on the clutch plates?

    Cheers.
     
    timtech, Oct 2, 2007
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  2. timtech

    Tegger Guest


    Don't spray WD-40 around there. That's a recipe for disaster and will do no
    good at all.

    Your noise is coming from the pivot ball inside the bellhousing.

    Unbolt the slave cylinder and move it aside as much as the line allows
    (remove entirely if necessary). Remove the boot that covers where the
    release arm goes into the bellhousing. At this point it is possible to push
    the release fork towards the timing belt end of the engine. DO NOT REMOVE
    THE FORK or allow it to move outwards!

    Arm yourself with an aerosol can of white grease with a nozzle hose. Using
    a mirror and a strong light, try to see where the ball is. It's about two
    inches inside the release fork hole, on the side AWAY from the timing belt.
    Push the release arm forwards, away from the ball, and CAREFULLY spray the
    white grease onto the ball. You need very little grease.

    Make 100% certain the nozzle hose of your spray can is aimed in line with
    the release arm, so it blocks any grease from reaching the clutch friction
    disc. Hold the spray can upside down to gain more room to work, but
    "prime" the can first by spraying it into the air to make sure it works.

    Before you button up in there, make sure the fork is still pivoting
    properly on the ball. It's possible for it to get cocked on an angle and
    not be sitting squarely on the ball.
     
    Tegger, Oct 2, 2007
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  3. timtech

    Tegger Guest


    On reflection...

    If it is possible to reach in and touch the ball, it would be safer and
    more effective to put some grease on your finger, then wipe that onto the
    ball.
     
    Tegger, Oct 3, 2007
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  4. timtech

    timtech Guest

    Thanks for the advice - I also have the workshop manual and I can see
    the pivot ball you are talking about... also talks about putting
    "Molybdenum Disulfide" lubricant on it ;-) Don't know when I'll do
    the work, the slave cylinder bolts are pretty rusty... will post when
    I do though!
     
    timtech, Oct 3, 2007
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  5. timtech

    Tegger Guest


    That stuff is distressingly expensive. White grease isn't as good, but
    should work for quite a while.

    Updtaes are always nice.
     
    Tegger, Oct 3, 2007
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  6. timtech

    timtech Guest

    Well I got some white grease, look the slave cylinder and did what you
    said and it seems to have done the trick for now ;-) Hopefully the
    creak won't come back. Thanks!
     
    timtech, Oct 5, 2007
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  7. timtech

    Tegger Guest


    Yay!
     
    Tegger, Oct 5, 2007
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  8. timtech

    GI Joe Guest

    Hi all,

    My 2001 Honda Civic Si (UK) has been making the exact same noise for a
    month or so now. I won't be able to get it looked at for a while, so
    assuming it's the same problem, what are the ramifications of leaving
    it unfixed? Is it dangerous or just annoying?

    Any advice appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Tom.
     
    GI Joe, Nov 21, 2007
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  9. timtech

    GI Joe Guest

    Actually, scrub that. I thought we were looking at a different
    video... My creaking is exactly like the one here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctjGLwuvyzM

    I tried contacting the guy who posted it to see if he managed to get
    it sorted but no reply. If anyone has any ideas please let me know via
    the newsgroup.

    Cheers,
    Tom.
     
    GI Joe, Nov 21, 2007
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  10. timtech

    Tegger Guest


    Is this more of a rubbing noise? Like plastic on rubber or something? My
    ears are very poor, so I have trouble sorting sounds from each other.

    Some Honda models have had problems with the lower steering column cover
    rubbing on the steering shaft, causing a sort of "squerk" noise. However, I
    can't find any US-based TSBs for your car on this issue. It would be well
    worth your time phone your local dealer and ask if there are any TSBs for
    your car in your market with this noise.

    As for whether or not it's dangerous or damaging I can't say, not having
    any idea if there are known issues with this model that would cause such a
    noise.
     
    Tegger, Nov 21, 2007
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  11. timtech

    timtech Guest

    As I said earlier I fixed this problem on my civic by lubricating with
    white grease the ball joint on the push arm thing...
     
    timtech, Dec 3, 2007
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  12. timtech

    GI Joe Guest

    In case anyone is wondering, or if someone with the same problem
    stumbles across this, I took it to a Honda dealer who diagnosed a
    failed steering rack. The original dealer I bought it from replaced
    the rack and it's been fine ever since.

    Tom.
     
    GI Joe, Jan 22, 2008
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