93 Civic Tierod Boot Replacement

Discussion in 'Civic' started by RC, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. RC

    RC Guest

    How difficult is it to install Honda replacement boots on 93 Civic tie
    rod ends? I bought some aftermarket urethane boots, but I don't like
    the fit. Tie rods and ball joints are still tight, but the dust boots
    are badly cracked. The shop manual shows a special tool for getting
    the boot over the body of the tie rod. Is the tool neccesary or can I
    do this by hand?

    -RC
     
    RC, Jan 24, 2010
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  2. RC

    jim beam Guest

    it's not difficult - simply remove the ball joint end.

    isn't that sufficient reason to stick with oem? besides, urethane may
    be stronger, but it's not more fatigue resistant.

    which "shop manual"? it's surely not the honda manual. the job is easy
    and needs no special tools other than a ball joint separator. unless
    you are very careful, you will need to do an alignment afterwards.
     
    jim beam, Jan 24, 2010
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  3. RC

    RC Guest

    Yes that is sufficient reason to go with oem. I expected the urethane
    product to have a good fit, which it doesn't. Tie rod life would be
    shortened.
    Yes it is. It shows a "Ball Joint Boot Clip Guide 07974-SA50800" used
    for installing the replacement boot. That's why I'm asking before I
    order replacement oem boots. It doesn't sound like I need the special
    tool, so it's curious that Honda would show it.

    Does the same go for replacing the ball joint boots? Ball joints are
    tight, but the lower boots are shot.
    I've gotta pop the lower ball joint to replace the half shafts. I've
    never noticed a change in alignment after doing this operation. The
    tie rods however were unscrewed to get to the sterring rack boots. The
    car will neeed the toe set at minimum. I've done that in the past with
    a laser pointer on my garage wall. Everything else I take to the
    corner alignment machine.

    Same deal with the rack boots. Aftermarket were completely wrong size,
    so I went with oem. ( I went with aftermarket at first because they
    were available that day. OEM was special order.)

    Thanks for the quick feedback.

    -RC

    R.Clarke
    "What traffic?"
    RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811
     
    RC, Jan 24, 2010
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  4. RC

    jim beam Guest

    that is for the ball joints, not the tie rod.

    ymmv, but i've been able to successfully replace those boots without a
    lot of problem and no special tool. i'm not sure the tool makes it
    easier though, and i'm also how easy it is to buy those boot separately.
    i got mine from a junk yard.

    unless you live in the rust belt and have some extraordinary high
    mileage on your vehicle, honda ball joint boots are usually very
    reliable. if they have "failed", it's usually because someone has use a
    pickle fork separator on them, not the proper tool. pickle forks always
    damage boots. always.

    tegger tells you what you need:

    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/disconnect.html

    indeed, it's the tie rod where it's a concern.
    if you're careful and know what you're doing, you can indeed replace the
    tie rod boots without realignment. that's not most people though. it's
    usually worth getting it done just to ensure everything is good.

    you're welcome.

    if your lower ball joint boots are shot, you might want to consider
    replacing the joints completely. once crud enters under the boot, the
    wear rate is greatly accelerated so chances are they're on their way out.
     
    jim beam, Jan 24, 2010
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  5. RC

    jim beam Guest

    edit munging:

    "i'm sure the tool makes it easier though, and i'm also /not/ sure how
    easy it is to buy those boots separately."
     
    jim beam, Jan 24, 2010
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  6. RC

    RC Guest

    It is in the tie rod section and it shows a picture of the tool being
    used on a tie rod end.

    -RC
    R.Clarke
    "What traffic?"
    RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811
     
    RC, Jan 24, 2010
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  7. RC

    RC Guest

    These aren't pickle fork rips. They are fatigue cracks.

    -RC

    R.Clarke
    "What traffic?"
    RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811
     
    RC, Jan 24, 2010
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  8. RC

    jim beam Guest

    language - no tool for the steering rack boot, just the ball joint boot.
    as i say, i've changed them without the tool before...
     
    jim beam, Jan 25, 2010
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  9. RC

    RC Guest

    That's great info. I'll order the tie rod and ball joint boots from
    Honda and won't sweat the special tools part of the manual.

    Thanks,
    -RC
    R.Clarke
    "What traffic?"
    RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811
     
    RC, Jan 25, 2010
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