93 Honda Accord with problems

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Imagnat, May 26, 2006.

  1. Imagnat

    Imagnat Guest

    I have a '93 Accord 10th Anniversary Ed. Automatic. I've owed the car
    for about 6 months and I have a couple of different problems that I
    hope someone can help with.

    1) The engine has a rough idle when warm (500-750 rpms). When I shift
    out of gear and into Neutral or Park it smooths out quite a bit, but
    not completely. It also goes away when driving or pressing the
    accelerator.

    2) When I am cruising at a steady speed (say between 60-70 mph) on
    level highway, I've noticed that the rpms will jump up about 500 rpms
    for no reason. It feels like a minor gear shift, but with the level
    terrain and the constant speed it shouldn't be shifting. It does this
    "shift" continuoisly back and forth.

    3) I've recently noticed the smell of burning oil when the car is
    parked, but no signs of an oil leak. I had the valve cover and spark
    plug gaskets replaced a few months ago, but this has only started with
    in the past few weeks. Occasionally, there is a puff of white/blue
    smoke that comes from the exhaust on start up.

    If you have had similar problems or have suggestions to correct them
    please let me know. Thnx.
     
    Imagnat, May 26, 2006
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  2. Imagnat

    Bob Guest


    This one sounds like a motor mount problem. Same happened to my '92
    Accord. All of them have been replaced now.
     
    Bob, May 27, 2006
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    Even without knowing the mileage, I'll bet your Throttle Position Sensor
    is worn out. High mileage and Cruise Control, Prairies? That's the
    formula for wearing out a TPS, which will cause the RPM fluctuation. It
    will go away if you drive into a headwind. :)

    You don't have to change the whole thing. Search it out thoroughly
    before paying somebody to fix it.

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', May 27, 2006
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  4. Imagnat

    TeGGeR® Guest



    You can also easily check it with a voltmeter. Backprobe the middle wire
    and check for smooth voltage transition from closed to wide-open throttle.
    Use an analog VOM. Autoranging digital ones can switch ranges part way
    through, causing what appears to be a hitch in power.
     
    TeGGeR®, May 27, 2006
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  5. Imagnat

    jim beam Guest

    check the ecu for codes before even bothering. i've had experience with
    this, and a dodgy tps /definitely/ sets a code.
     
    jim beam, May 27, 2006
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  6. Imagnat

    Imagnat Guest

    I've done some research on what that part does and it does sound like
    it could be the problem. I will check it out soon and let you know. Do
    you think simply cleaning the contacts fix it? I don't know if it goes
    away when i'm in a headwind, but it does usually stop if I punch the
    throttle or cruise above 80 mph. It mostly occurs between 50-70 mph.
    Since my original post, I've been watching it a little closer and have
    determined that the rpm fluctuation is only about 250-300 rpm instead
    of the 500 I had said before.
     
    Imagnat, Jun 3, 2006
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    It is SO EASY to confirm. Just go to an open area or road where you can
    drive SLOW in first gear. When you hit the exact same RPM that it shows
    up at, it will start 'bucking' as it goes faster / slower. I had a Ford
    Aerostar with a manual tranny and a bad TPS. You had to wear a seatbelt
    while hunting for a parking spot or it would nearly throw you out of the
    seat. Previous owner apparently didn't think it was worthy of fixing!!

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Jun 4, 2006
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  8. Imagnat

    Imagnat Guest

    I tried what you said and the engine ran normal. The problem normally
    occurs around 3000 rpms. I put the car in first gear and slowly got it
    up to as high as 3500 and there was no bucking, jerking or anything.
    Does this mean it's not the TPS? Is there another way to confirm?

    Thanks
     
    Imagnat, Jun 5, 2006
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    You may not have been patient enough. (if) It's a tiny gap in the
    rheostat, and you could miss it easily if you slipped past it.
    Everything has to be warmed up just like it is on the highway too. We
    still don't know the mileage, do we?

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Jun 6, 2006
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  10. Imagnat

    jim beam Guest

    based on that description, it shouldn't be the tps. but yes, you can
    confirm: check the ecu for codes. the ecu most /definitely/ registers
    faulty tps's.

    other things to check are:

    .. throttle cable - snagging can feed back into the movement the throttle
    experiences.
    .. ignition system. dodgy plug leads can cause all kinds of bizarre
    behavior.
    .. engine mounts, particularly the big one behind the engine. i've never
    yet seen a honda this vintage that didn't have this mounting torn to blazes.
    .. timing belt tightness. when i got my 89 civic used a couple of years
    ago, i was dismayed to find the timing belt crazy loose. tightening it
    correctly made all kinds of weird behavioral issues go away [because
    there's no longer any "wow" in the sensor inputs].

    also do a general check for other mechanical health, vacuum control
    hoses, etc.
     
    jim beam, Jun 6, 2006
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