93 Honda Civic DX Needs Piston or Engine (?)

Discussion in 'Civic' started by javelin, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. javelin

    javelin Guest

    Can someone advise me? I have a 93 Honda Civic DX, and need to have a
    piston replaced, but the mechanic says it's just as checp to put in a
    used engine. The engine still has so much power, I hate to replace it
    with a potentially weaker or more unreliable one (going used to save
    $$$). Can anyone tell me, is a piston replacement something a weekend
    mechanic can handle with the aid of a Chilton's guide? Would I be
    better off with a new "used" engine, and can I put that in myself?

    Thanks so much for advice. I'm on a tight budget.

    Thanks again.

    J
     
    javelin, Nov 17, 2006
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  2. javelin

    jim beam Guest

    it's true, a good used engine can be just a few hundred bucks. the
    labor/machining/parts to re-piston is a lot more.

    but the real question is, if the engine "still has so much power", how
    come your mechanic thinks they need to replace a piston? what are the
    symptoms?
     
    jim beam, Nov 17, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    I am just curious: What does the shop want to put in a new
    engine (labor and parts)?

    They seem abundant via the net (unlike other makes' used
    engines). I think this is because Japan has some tough laws
    on engine emissions, resulting in "young" used engines
    becoming plentiful to the rest of the world. E.g. $800 or so
    at

    http://www.asapmotors.com/used-engines-honda-c-1_5.html
    http://www.actionsalvage.com/engine/UsedEngineHonda.asp

    Google using words like {"Honda engines" Civic}.

    I remember reading at least two sites recently that discuss
    people's experiences with Honda engine swaps. Google for
    {"engine swap" honda} and/or see http://hondaswap.com/ and
    http://www.honda-tech.com/ (registration is free on both, I
    think).
     
    Elle, Nov 17, 2006
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  4. javelin

    Earle Horton Guest

    What makes you think you need a piston replaced? Usually when they go bad
    they damage the cylinder wall too, which **requires** the engine to be
    replaced or totally redone. If one piston is worn, the others are too. In
    my experience partial engine rebuild jobs cost more in the long run, than
    doing it the right way.

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, Nov 17, 2006
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  5. javelin

    javelin Guest

    Jim,

    Thanks for the response. Regarding the piston, I had a compression test
    done, and piston# 2 gets no compression at all, while the other three
    get a reading of 150. The engine leaks oil like crazy, and the whole
    car vibrates like crazy. Any thoughts?
     
    javelin, Nov 21, 2006
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  6. javelin

    Earle Horton Guest

    Replacing just the damaged piston is not a good idea, because the broken
    pieces will have gotten into the oil and caused no end of damage to the rest
    of the engine. Besides if one piston has decided to give up the ghost, the
    other three are on the verge of it. I have seen people fix problems like
    this for a while, but not a real long while.

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, Nov 21, 2006
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    MishaA Guest

    +1 put in a new engine. If you got to that point, you most probably need
    the full engine rebuild, and this will cost you more than "new" used
    engine. If you try to do partial rebuilds, they will cost you much
    more, albeit somewhat spreaded over the time. And if your engine has
    less than 200-300K on it, try to think what did you do to ruin it? That
    may save you some money in the future:wink:
     
    MishaA, Nov 21, 2006
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  8. javelin

    javelin Guest

    Thanks for the advice. Not happy to hear it, admittedly, but thanks.
    I'm heading for a new engine.
     
    javelin, Nov 21, 2006
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  9. javelin

    javelin Guest

    Thanks, I got a price of $495 from asapmotors.com, and am heading over
    to actionsalvage.com now. Thanks.
     
    javelin, Nov 21, 2006
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    jim beam Guest

    sounds like a thrown rod. if so, the engine's uneconomic to repair and
    you need to get a new one.
     
    jim beam, Nov 21, 2006
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