94 Accord AT going bad?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by R. P., Jun 18, 2005.

  1. R. P.

    SoCalMike Guest

    what did they have to say bout the last mechanic, if anything? ive
    personally never looked at the site myself, and chances are with my luck
    ill forget all about it if i ever need major service done... duh!
     
    SoCalMike, Jun 23, 2005
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  2. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Nothing. That shop wasn't even listed.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jun 24, 2005
    #22
  3. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Will do.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jun 24, 2005
    #23
  4. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Well, I decided to get a second opinion on the possible reason for that
    howling sound coming from under the hood and visited one of the nearby
    independent shops specializing in Japanese cars that got really good
    rating from customers in www.cartalk.com. The shop has been around for
    a long time and I was able to talk to the hands-on owner who also
    test-drove the car. From that he could not really localize the source
    of the howling, so at his shop he got out his stetoscope and listened to
    the noise emitted from various components. To my relief he said he
    didn't think the noise was coming from the tranny but from the timing
    belt area. To be sure though, he suggested to leave the car there soon
    so he can remove the plastic cover over the timing belt and look and
    listen there. He also proposed a process of elimination by removing one
    belt at a time (not the timing belt, of course!) to see if any of those
    steps stops the howling. His best guess is that some worn bearing in
    the timing belt area makes the noise.

    As this second opinion is quite different than the first one that
    suggested the torque converter being the source, I decided to give the
    benefit of doubt to this second opinion as it seems to be the less
    costly alternative and who knows, it might fix the problem. If it
    doesn't, I can escalate the issue to other possible couses, such as the
    torque converter, just as I tried the ATF replacement first before
    trying the next, costlier option.

    In any case, this shop owner mechanic impressed me sufficiently to take
    my car to him in a couple days and see if his guess was right. I'll
    keep you posted on the outcome.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jun 28, 2005
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  5. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Well, here is the promised post: the problem is fixed. As it turned out
    the strange howling sound did not come from the transmission and not
    even from under the timing belt cover. It was coming from the AC
    compressor. This mechanic turned out to be what the www.cartalk.com
    responses indicated: the best one I ever came across. He localized the
    problem by removing one belt at a time to see if that caused any change
    in the noise and he'd found it when he removed the belt from the AC
    compressor. Since a new AC compressor from Honda costs a fortune, he
    suggested getting a used one from a junk yard from an identical car with
    low milage and that's what I got for a reasonable price. Luckily I also
    suggested to check the engine mounts while at it and sure enough, he
    found the rubber support in the front engine bracket broken which then
    he also replaced with a new one. He said the rear engine mount was OK
    though somewhat stretched. As that one is much more expensive, I left
    that one to be addressed at a future date. All in all, the engine sounds
    real good and quiet, as good as I ever heard it and the price was quite
    reasonable. I feel real lucky to have found this independent shop
    through cartalk.com and from one of you guys who suggested using that
    source. Without it I might have gone ahead with the suggestion of that
    Honda mechanic who diagnosed the problem as a bad torque converter. So
    much for authorized Honda expertise.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jun 30, 2005
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    SoCalMike Guest

    if the AC still works, id probably just drive as-is until the compressor
    fails. if it didnt work, then sure- a new compressor would be nice. or
    no AC?
     
    SoCalMike, Jul 1, 2005
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  7. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    Sure, as I seldom use the AC, anyway. It's just that howling noise that
    bothered me, especially when I did not know where it was coming from.
    Also, is it really economical to buy expensive new parts for an 11 year
    old car with 205 K miles in it that I don't plan to keep longer that 2
    or 3 years?

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jul 1, 2005
    #27
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    E Meyer Guest

    Three years is the duration of the original warranty. If you plan to keep
    it that long, then I think new parts are justified.
     
    E Meyer, Jul 1, 2005
    #28
  9. R. P.

    R. P. Guest

    That does not mean that the parts only last 3 years though. In any case,
    I was willing to take the gamble because I've had some experience
    already with such used parts and it was all good.

    Rudy
     
    R. P., Jul 2, 2005
    #29
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